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Forum topic by awsum55 posted 12-04-2018 08:23 PM 1019 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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awsum55

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12-04-2018 08:23 PM

Christmas is right around the corner and my wife is starting to put up the decorations. She came home with a new tool that I wasn’t aware of, a remote switch for turning on and off your Christmas lights from inside your home.

I immediately took it to the shop to see if it would work to turn on and off my 1 1/2 hp dust collection unit. It works like a charm and I’ve been using it for about a week now and couldn’t be happier. I thought I would share this with those of you like me, refused to pay $65 for a simple switch.

I kept seeing this one and wanted the convenience, but didn’t think I would ever spend the money.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004S9AI/?coliid=I1HAKX72UO5EQM&colid=2VOTSAAMZF7KP&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it!https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/pj8b37o.jpg!

This is what I got instead. Actually I stole it from my wife and made her go get another one for herself. It comes with a remote that has a key ring attached that I can clip to my apron. So many saved steps!

https://www.amazon.com/HomeHopes-Wireless-Remote-Control-Outdoor/dp/B07BDJHP4H/ref=asc_df_B07BDJHP4H/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241942959786&hvpos=1o20&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17257058705604986827&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023907&hvtargid=pla-550876821797&psc=1

-- John D, OP, KS


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#1 posted 12-04-2018 08:31 PM

Hold up there John
You do get what you pay for – the cheap unit is rated for 15a which your dust collector probably exceeds while the other one is rated for 20a

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#2 posted 12-04-2018 08:48 PM

It works fine, so what do you think might happen? I’m sure I’ve turned it on and off at least 50 times so far.

-- John D, OP, KS

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#3 posted 12-04-2018 08:56 PM



It works fine, so what do you think might happen? I m sure I ve turned it on and off at least 50 times so far.

- awsum55

There’s another thread here where someone had a heater that barely exceeded the amperage and caused the outlet and the plug to fuse and short almost starting a fire. You could see the streak on the wall of the outlet going up but thankfully stopped before it got worse.

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GrantA

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#4 posted 12-04-2018 09:38 PM

Fire. 1-1/2hp DC needs a dedicated 20a circuit. The 15a device probably gets pretty hot doesn’t it? Like using a long and / or undersized extension cord.
Stay safe

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#5 posted 12-04-2018 09:43 PM

Sometimes spending $65 makes a lot more sense than spending $15, this is one of those cases.

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#6 posted 12-04-2018 09:45 PM

Maybe that’s why it’s been working for me. I hate the noise, so I don’t leave it on very long. Actually I didn’t touch it to see if it was hot. Thank you for the warning, I’ll keep an eye on it.

-- John D, OP, KS

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#7 posted 12-04-2018 09:53 PM

We went through a few of those types of X-mass light controllers before getting the long ranger. They got hot and died after a while. YMMV.

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#8 posted 12-04-2018 09:58 PM

The $65 one has an integral 20A fuse in the switch too.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#9 posted 12-04-2018 10:02 PM

Sounds like the Long Ranger would make a perfect gift for your wife to give you for Christmas.

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GrantA

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#10 posted 12-04-2018 10:11 PM



Sounds like the Long Ranger would make a perfect gift for your wife to give you for Christmas.

- Kazooman


Yep! Point her to this thread lol

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#11 posted 12-04-2018 10:34 PM



Sometimes spending $65 makes a lot more sense than spending $15, this is one of those cases.

- AHuxley

Still, doesn’t seem like there’s $50 worth of real difference between the two. But that’s market supply and demand pricing I guess.

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#12 posted 12-04-2018 10:46 PM

+1 Any 15A rated control won’t last very long on 1.5HP 15A motor.
Inrush currents are too high for 15A rated circuits.

My 1.5HP Delta dust collector has destroyed three of the 15A rated ivac units (2 under warranty) and melted an xmas light controller.
The issue on the iVac units is heat. The 15A rated triac inside works just fine steady state. But get it warmed up after 30-40 minutes of use, with an ambeint temp over 80-90F, and then turn it on, the inrush current fries the TRIAC inside, which then acts like a $60 fuse.

Xmas light controller I tested got very warm to touch, and If run in cold temperatures, sort of works. But use it in 70-80F ambient and the case starts to deform/melt, then it goes ‘poof’ on next random start up.
15A rated Xmas controller might work on 1HP, 12A unit; but not anything larger.

YMMV

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#13 posted 12-04-2018 10:58 PM



Still, doesn t seem like there s $50 worth of real difference between the two. But that s market supply and demand pricing I guess.

- AM420

One is a niche product and the other is a mass market item. The real difference is when the unsuitable one fails which if one is lucky just requires replacing it with another one or the more suitable product but if one isn’t so lucky the $50 will seem like a pittance.

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#14 posted 12-05-2018 12:31 AM

i used to use a long ranger on my old dust collector,its made for that the cheap ones arnt,as the others have warned,dont trust the 15 dollar ones to run your collector,unless you have great fire insurance!

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#15 posted 12-05-2018 03:20 AM

I’ve used a Long Ranger for years and years to turn on/off my dust collector…..BUT….I’ve got 200 amp service, and each major machine has its own circuit…..and each one is 20 amps….In all the years I’ve had my shop, I’ve never thrown a breaker, or had one minutes trouble with any machine tripping….My central heating and air units are on 30 amps….Don’t skimp when it comes to your shop and your safety…..!!

-- " The secret to staying young looking.....hang around old people.." R.D.

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