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Forum topic by PastorBarry posted 12-03-2018 02:47 PM 612 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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PastorBarry

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12-03-2018 02:47 PM

My Craftsman 3.5 HP router just “burned up.” (That’s the second one and the same thing happened to my first one.) I’m looking at a new Triton 3-1/4 HP Dual-Mode Plunge Router for $246 or a used Bosch 3.25 HP for $200. Which would be the best purchase. I’m needing one for raised panel doors, crown molding, etc.


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#1 posted 12-03-2018 03:21 PM

Hmmm, if by “burned up” you mean the brushes in the motor, those can usually be replaced pretty cheap. Otherwise I’ve never been let down by Bosch tools, own a Bosch router and am happy. Never owned any Triton tools.

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#2 posted 12-03-2018 03:33 PM

If you keep burning up routers, maybe it’s time to look into a shaper?

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#3 posted 12-03-2018 03:38 PM

The type of work you’re describing is best done with a shaper as jbay says because it usually requires heavy material removal or multiple passes with a router. However, if you’re set on the router route then forget the plunge feature. Go with the beefiest router you can find and make it your permanent table mount.

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#4 posted 12-03-2018 04:53 PM

I appreciate everyone’s suggestions!

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#5 posted 12-03-2018 06:49 PM

Shapers are typically quite cheap at industrial auctions or even on Craigslist. That would be what I’d use to make raised panels and moldings. Routers are more for edge profiles, dados, and rabbets. They can do heavier work, but they’re not beefy enough to do it all the time like a shaper is.

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#6 posted 12-03-2018 07:27 PM

I know that this model is not one your asking about but this router has been a standard in pro wood shops for years,I’ve had had mine for 20 years with never a whimper no matter what I through at It and parts and accessories for PCs are readily available.

https://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7518-Speedmatic-5-Speed-Router/dp/B0000222V3

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#7 posted 12-03-2018 07:39 PM

If you didn’t throw away the craftsman routers, check the bushings. If you do a lot of panels & crown moldings, a stand alone shaper may be the answer. I do a far amount of panels, and have no problems with my 2 craftsman routers. but I don’t do a full cut on the pass, I run several passes till I get to the final cut.

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#8 posted 12-05-2018 11:22 AM



I know that this model is not one your asking about but this router has been a standard in pro wood shops for years,I ve had had mine for 20 years with never a whimper no matter what I through at It and parts and accessories for PCs are readily available.

https://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7518-Speedmatic-5-Speed-Router/dp/B0000222V3

- a1Jim

These routers aren’t what they used to be Jim.
I’ve got 12 of them in the shop, and the true Porter Cables…before B&D bought them out are TANKS. Absolutely bullet proof, and we abuse the hell out of them.
Any that I bought after B&D took over are complete junk. Mainly shat bearings and fans that explode. Their(certified) repair depots, (2 different ones) would fix them and literally a week or two later they would be vibrating like a 20 thousand rpm dildo. Thats if the fan didn’t explode first.
The Dewalt rep pretended to care in the beginning and then slowly started to fade away.
I eventually told him to piss off after he said it was an issue with the way we use the routers. Funny though, he claimed that NOTHING had changed as far as parts, but couldn’t explain why we hadn’t had any problems with the older units.
Sonsabitches….

-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle

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000

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#9 posted 12-05-2018 03:01 PM


Their(certified) repair depots, (2 different ones) would fix them and literally a week or two later they would be vibrating like a 20 thousand rpm dildo.

- Tony_S

I think you misspelled Dremel
(what were you thinking?)

I have a few of the old tanks.
I’m afraid to buy new PC’s, even though they have been my go to routers for years.

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#10 posted 12-05-2018 03:24 PM

Tony and J I guess you guys have more experience with the newer models of speedmatic, fortunately, I still have two backups. I guess I forget about how many tools have changed over the years.

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#11 posted 12-05-2018 03:36 PM

Jim, I haven’t tried the new model speedmatic. Just saying that I’m afraid to.
I have some newer PC 1 3/4 hp routers that were barely used, and I had to change bearings out on them.

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Robert

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#12 posted 12-05-2018 03:50 PM

First I would give some thought to why you’re burning through routers. Is it somehow related to how you’re using it?

Either one of those routers will do the job. I have the Triton TRA001 that I use in a router table. I’ve run quite a few raised panels through and it has plenty of power for that.

That said, I do 3 passes with hard woods, with MDF one pass.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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PastorBarry

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#13 posted 12-06-2018 03:45 AM

The first 3 1/2 HP craftsman router was purchased used off of ebay. It worked great for a while. When I would make a raised panel, I would at least do 3 passes. One day it started smoking real bad and fire started coming from the motor and it quit. The second router was purchased off ebay also. It was reconditioned. I’ve had it about 4 years. It never gave me any trouble until a few days ago. I was using a large bit that I had just purchase to make a crown molding profile. I was going to use several passes on it. On about the second pass it started smoking and I could smell plastic burning so I stopped. I thought the motor was gone then, however, I’ve used it a few times since then and it still smokes a little but it is still working, as of now.

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#14 posted 12-06-2018 04:11 AM

Paster,Not sure if you are aware but larger bits need to be run at lower speeds,the larger the bit the slower the speed.

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#15 posted 12-06-2018 09:32 AM

Yep, those big bits are pure Hail on a fixed speed router.

If the router isn’t purchased yet I too would steer clear of anything that B&D was, or still is the parent company of. They took the wheels off of some fine companies with their efforts to make Skill, and B&D brands the premium tools, and PC, and Delta, the CHEEP home owners brands. Delta has been repurchased by a TaiChinese company, bit the word is still out as to what they will do.

I’ve been having real good luck with the Triton line, and being able to do through the table height adjustment may not be as slick as a router lift, but certainly do-able.

Someone suggested a shaper if you are burning up routers. While this is very true about the motors themselves, know everything else about the shaper costs more $$$$$. You also would be very hard pressed to pull the motor out of the table and use it to hand shape something like you can with a router. Most of those with a shaper, still also have a router, if not a dozen or more.

-- Think safe, be safe

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