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SC75

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12-01-2018 03:07 PM

Topic tags/keywords: machine review jointer planer tool

Hi everyone. I’m new to this forum and somewhat new to woodworking. I’m looking at buying a jointer/planer and I have been trying to find reviews on the King Industrial KC-12HJPC
12” Industrial Jointer / Planer With Spiral Cutterhead without any luck. Does anyone have first hand experience and opinion on this machine?
I’m also looking at other models such as Hammer A3-31 and Jet JJP-12HH but there are plenty of reviews on those.
The King is $3500 and the Hammer is $5700 and I’m wondering if “you get what you pay for” here or if the cost difference is importing the Hammer from Austria.
Thank you in advance for your feedback.


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BattleRidge

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#1 posted 12-01-2018 04:15 PM

I previously had my eye on the Jet JJP-12HH (which I have checked out) and liked the idea of the combination machine, the width of the jointer, plus the helical heads, however it was out of my budget and any purchase would have been much into the future. I also checked out the Hammer JP combo at a woodworking show this spring and liked the way it looked.

Then earlier this year I was able to obtain a new Dewalt DW735X planer (with extension tables and spare blades) via Amazon for $350, which was a deal I couldn’t pass up. This placed me into the search for a jointer and I found a Grizzly G0490 8” Parallelogram Bed Planer in great condition on Facebook Marketplace for $750.

Since having the separate Planer and Jointer, I have found the ability to meander through various projects without having to switch modes on the machine to be a big plus. I also like the idea of the longer jointing bed which (at least to me) is more important than the jointing width, and with a simple technique I can joint a board that is wider than 8”, then via a simple technique I can run it through the planer to obtain a 13” wide jointed & planed board. I am planning on maintaining two separate machines, though at some point I would like to upgrade the Dewalt to a helical head, and to eventually do the same with the Grizzly.

One of my local equipment dealers (Keim Lumber in Charm Ohio) carries King equipment and while I haven’t looked closely at the line, from what I’ve seen King seems to be good and Keim typically leans toward carrying better quality products.

I have a feeling that much more input will come and this forum has been a great resource of information in much of what I have done. Good luck in your future purchase.

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Andre

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#2 posted 12-01-2018 06:34 PM

Not sure where you live so what’s available and price could be a lot different, Hammer in different class but the King, Jet and Scorpion all the same machine and work fine for there purpose!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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runswithscissors

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#3 posted 12-02-2018 12:53 AM

If you happen to live in the Pacific NW, there is a Jet/Powermatic outlet store in Auburn (south of Seattle). They regularly run ads in CL, and they have the Jet JJP12 from time to time. With straight knives or helical. That’s where I got mine, at a considerable savings. And I really like the machine.

Just checked, and they don’t have one now. They do have 2 or 3 planers, however.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#4 posted 12-02-2018 03:08 AM

I just looked at an ad for the machine and it is virtually identical to the Jet JJP-12HH. I have used the machine for a couple of years now and I like it. The only objection I have to it is the textured infeed and outfeed tables. I am sure they had a reason for taking this extra finishing step but I would have preferred a smooth surface.

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BurlyBob

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#5 posted 12-02-2018 04:12 AM

I bought at Jet JJP-12HH this past summer and have really come to appreciate it. It’s been a great addition to my shop. I bought it from Equipment sales & surplus in Auburn, Wash. Their price seemed about as low as anyone else and them offered free delivery to my house. The driver pulled in into my garage with a pallet jack. Couldn’t have asked for better service.

Like with every tool there was a learning curve. Along the way I found a few things that needed adjustments and a few techniques learned. Like you I didn’t care for the rough table. I ran some 220 and 600 grit wet/dry sand paper over and gave it good rub down with paste wax. It works just fine for me. I wasn’t sure I would care for the European safety guard over the cutter head at first. But I’ve come to really like it. I’ve got mine on the mobile base. It works great for me as I can move in around out of the way till I need it and then store it at the end of the day so the wife can use the other bay. It was a little spendy, but I figure I’m worth it. Like I said It’s a great addition to my shop.

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runswithscissors

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#6 posted 12-02-2018 04:25 AM

BurlyB: Thanks for the name of that outlet. For some reason, their CL ads never mention the name of the company. As far as I can tell, they deal only in Powermatic and Jet. They were not offering delivery when I bought mine (about 5-6 years ago), so I had to drive down from Bellingham. I have never found the grooved table on mine to be a problem.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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AHuxley

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#7 posted 12-02-2018 05:20 AM



BurlyB: Thanks for the name of that outlet. For some reason, their CL ads never mention the name of the company. As far as I can tell, they deal only in Powermatic and Jet. They were not offering delivery when I bought mine (about 5-6 years ago), so I had to drive down from Bellingham. I have never found the grooved table on mine to be a problem.

- runswithscissors

Their “scratch and dent” machines and tools are Jet/Powermatic/Wilton but they also carry Oliver, Baleigh (at least on the metal side) and Laguna. You can buy any of the new machines shipped but they rarely ship the surplus/scratch and dent machines.

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ArtMann

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#8 posted 12-02-2018 02:56 PM

That is exactly what I did to my JJP12-HH but one shouldn’t have to do that to a new tool just to make it work.

I guess maybe it comes from 4 decades of using a “porkchop” guard on previous jointers, but the European style guard doesn’t suit me very well. I didn’t mention it because, unlike the rough tabletop finish, I don’t count that as a design flaw.


Like with every tool there was a learning curve. Along the way I found a few things that needed adjustments and a few techniques learned. Like you I didn t care for the rough table. I ran some 220 and 600 grit wet/dry sand paper over and gave it good rub down with paste wax. It works just fine for me. I wasn t sure I would care for the European safety guard over the cutter head at first. But I ve come to really like it.
- BurlyBob

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