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11-30-2018 01:10 AM

Topic tags/keywords: humor oak

Is there any wood as ugly and cheap looking as red oak? When I see cheap cabinets, the kind you find in tract homes with pressboard carcasses and staples there is always on thing in common — red oak frames, doors and drawers. Cheap furniture stores all feature red oak as well. You know, the ones with catchy names like Oak and More.

The bottom line is when I see red oak, I think low-end junk. I know some great furniture has been made using it, but given its current stigma, maybe it’s time to relegate it to the fire pit where it belongs.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner


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#1 posted 11-30-2018 01:11 AM

Alder? woops, just kidding folks…

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#2 posted 11-30-2018 01:20 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I made my kitchen cabinets out of quartersawn red oak as well as other furniture pieces. I will not use anything but plywood for the cabinet carcasses and solid wood face frames. All my trim in the house is red oak but the house is a hundred years old this year.

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#3 posted 11-30-2018 01:26 AM

thank you for YOUR OPINION :<))

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#4 posted 11-30-2018 01:44 AM

I’m with Woodmaster – red oak is a fine quality wood. You have to take the time to find boards that compliment each other and don’t just slap things together. Even the nicest wood look like garbage if no thought goes into the aesthetics. A fine piece of furniture is much more than wood cut and pieced together to make something. The beauty and quality are where the craftsmanship comes in.

BTW – Woodmaster – that is a fine looking craftsman style cabinet.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#5 posted 11-30-2018 01:47 AM

Personally I think it suffers for a few reasons. Cheap crap furniture, cabinets, and flooring all look like low end junk no matter the wood. I cringe at the “cherry” and “walnut” finish on the cheap furniture and flooring.

Also due to price a lot of flat sawn and the resulting cathedral grain gets used and over all nowhere as aesthetically pleasing or refined as rift or quarter sawn in my opinion. I just think it takes more skill to incorporate the flat sawn stuff but then again the general public is driving what I typically cringe at by their spending.

The other issue it is red oak is relatively cheap and plentiful so ends up being used by a lot novice woodworkers that don’t necessarily think about the finishing aspect or have the skills to do the wood justice. So you get some ugly pieces frequently.

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#6 posted 11-30-2018 01:49 AM

Quarter sawn is a completely different thing. Consider my post amended to exclude quarter sawn.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#7 posted 11-30-2018 01:49 AM

Alder since they stain it to look like red oak it must be lower junk.

Rich

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#8 posted 11-30-2018 02:11 AM


Alder since they stain it to look like red oak it must be lower junk.

- diverlloyd

lol, no, just the finisher is at fault in that case. If you paint a Mercedes paisley, it doesn’t speak badly about the car, just the loser who had it painted that way.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#9 posted 11-30-2018 02:39 AM

Damn. Maybe I need to start over on this desk top

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#10 posted 11-30-2018 02:50 AM

”Is there any wood as ugly and cheap looking as red oak?”

Well Rich….......I have seen some pretty ugly pallet wood. :)

This would probably look better had he use flat sawn oak. Just saying.

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#11 posted 11-30-2018 02:53 AM

Rich,
You just shamed me into setting fire to my entire kitchen. (except for my Flame Box Elder refrigerator and matching closet door). Marc

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#12 posted 11-30-2018 03:01 AM


If you paint a Mercedes paisley, it doesn t speak badly about the car, just the loser who had it painted that way.

- Rich

At first I wasn’t sure if that would look stupid.
But now I’m convinced it would look stupid.

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#13 posted 11-30-2018 03:06 AM

Rich depends on the quality of the work. I have seen a couple cars painted paisley that looked very good. One was a Porsche with the paisley pattern in silver then the racing stripes in red with the paisley pattern in color. It was impressive and have to had numerous man hours in it. I understand what you are saying though.

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#14 posted 11-30-2018 03:16 AM

Rubber wood from Indonesia. It’s very blah the only wood i can think of that needs stain to look better. :(

-- Aj

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#15 posted 11-30-2018 03:17 AM


If you paint a Mercedes paisley, it doesn t speak badly about the car, just the loser who had it painted that way.

- Rich

At first I wasn t sure if that would look stupid.
But now I m convinced it would look stupid.

- ColonelTravis


That’s busier then the Porsche. Locally we have a BMW that is fully chromed. A ass for every seat I guess.

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