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WoodshopTherapy

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11-10-2018 10:38 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw sawstop

I’m considering selling my 20 year old Delta table saw and buying a SawStop. I don’t have any issues with my Delta, but I consider the safety feature of a SawStop some insurance in my next 30 years of woodworking. I don’t know anyone who has a SawStop.

I’d like thoughts from SawStop and non-SawStop users to help me decide if it’s worth the investment. What to you think?

Thanks for your help. Scott.

-- Scott Bennett - sharing woodworking knowledge


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jonah

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#1 posted 11-10-2018 10:48 PM

The Sawstop saws are fantastic table saws even without the braking feature. They’re a bit more money than a comparable Unisaw, but they’re definitely top quality saws. If I hadn’t come across a very good deal on my Unisaw, I would own a Sawstop right now. I’ve used them at friends’ before and they’re fantastic.

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#2 posted 11-10-2018 10:50 PM

At the end of the day, it’s your call. if you can afford it, why not? The fit, finish, power, usability, and safety are fantastic (yes, I have one). The only reason I got one was 1) My old Delta contractor saw wasn’t going to do what I wanted in the long run, 2) saw a very very experienced woodworker on YT (Mathias Wandell) have an accident and realized the Reality that it can happen to anyone regardless of experience (Diresta too). That was enough to push me over the edge. Don’t regret it one bit. If you Do decide to get it, don’t skimp on the accessories, especially on the Mobile Base.

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#3 posted 11-10-2018 11:48 PM



At the end of the day, it s your call. if you can afford it, why not? The fit, finish, power, usability, and safety are fantastic (yes, I have one). The only reason I got one was 1) My old Delta contractor saw wasn t going to do what I wanted in the long run, 2) saw a very very experienced woodworker on YT (Mathias Wandell) have an accident and realized the Reality that it can happen to anyone regardless of experience (Diresta too). That was enough to push me over the edge. Don t regret it one bit. If you Do decide to get it, don t skimp on the accessories, especially on the Mobile Base.

- Rayne

In addition to those videos, and they are worth watching, I came across this video a couple of years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UuTYbwvEaM

Not a well-known YT channel, but he’s run a cabinet shop for over 40 years. Notice that he’s using quite a good safety set up, but still makes a big mistake.

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#4 posted 11-11-2018 12:06 AM

you still have to follow all safety practices :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#5 posted 11-11-2018 12:08 AM

I’m for it!

Love mine and it was a pretty good stretch when I bought it. I could not justify one accident or mistake not being avoided. The fit and finish of my PCS are excellent. I had fun with her all day today! Get a good blade and enjoy!

The Forest WWII is very good.

-- A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer.

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#6 posted 11-11-2018 01:03 AM

I’m all for safety (also motherhood and apple pie), but I’ve never liked the way SS achieves it. From the beginning, I was convinced it’s not necessary to stop the blade, it only needs to drop beneath the table. Slamming it into that sacrificial aluminum block is like stopping your car by driving into a bridge abutment.

Bosch came up with a rival design (I actually saw one in the flesh at my local hardware store), but I believe SS sued and shut them down. Too bad, because I like to see any monopoly challenged. Videos of Bosch’s looked good, and much easier and cheaper to reset in the event of a triggering. And it didn’t ruin the blade.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#7 posted 11-11-2018 01:12 AM



I m all for safety (also motherhood and apple pie), but I ve never liked the way SS achieves it. From the beginning, I was convinced it s not necessary to stop the blade, it only needs to drop beneath the table. Slamming it into that sacrificial aluminum block is like stopping your car by driving into a bridge abutment.

Bosch came up with a rival design (I actually saw one in the flesh at my local hardware store), but I believe SS sued and shut them down. Too bad, because I like to see any monopoly challenged. Videos of Bosch s looked good, and much easier and cheaper to reset in the event of a triggering. And it didn t ruin the blade.

- runswithscissors

I’m not a fan of what they did, but the founder was a lawyer, so that’s what happens. Festool’s parent company actually bought them, so I’m interested to see what happens when the patents expire in a year or two. The Bosch saw is still available here, but it’s only in a contractor saw, so it’s pretty limited.

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#8 posted 11-11-2018 01:16 AM

6 year owner of a SawStop 3Hp Cabinet Saw. I agree with all the positives above. They are quality machines. Fired mine twice. Once saved a finger with a nick so small it there was no blood. The other was a short that I caused but was not a safety issue. SawStop replaced the first cartirdge and the Forester WWII blade was repaired and resharpened by Forest. Forest is a great company making excellent blades and has great services.

-- socrbent Ohio

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#9 posted 11-11-2018 01:32 AM

I have had the SS cabinet saw for about 3 years, I have not had one problem and so far I have never set it off. I would definitely buy it again.

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#10 posted 11-11-2018 02:00 AM

Scott,
I am in the same position.
I have a 15 year old Delta hybrid saw (that’s working fine) but I keep pondering replacing it with a SawStop PCS.
If my saw had a riving knife I don’t know if I would be thinking about replacing it or not.
My saw is accurate and repeatable so for me the SawStop would be strictly for the safety feature.

-- Regards, Charlie in Rowlett, TX --------I talk to myself, because sometimes I need expert advice.---------

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#11 posted 11-11-2018 02:07 AM

I’m buying one in the next few weeks. Several years ago I would have said you don’t need it. Over those years, a few friends have had accidents, so my mind has changed. Now that I’ve started my business and want to upgrade to 3 hp, it seems like the right time to bite the bullet. I say do it and don’t look back.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#12 posted 11-11-2018 02:24 AM

Have you had an injury with the Delta? How many years have you used it?

-- Think safe, be safe

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#13 posted 11-11-2018 04:57 AM

I have a SawStop 3 HP PCS. I’d buy it again without question. It’s a great saw.

I view the SS as insurance. It cost some, but the potential savings is huge. Is someone stupid for not having a SS? Of course not. Just like I don’t have anti-lock brakes on my truck. But, I’d be better off if I did.

In the end no one is perfect, and we all make mistakes. Most of the time we get away unscathed, but every once in awhile, luck runs out and something bad happens. No one is immune from this. I see the SawStop safety feature just like air bags in a car. Odds are you will never need them, but if you do, you’ll be darn glad you have them.

-- Clin

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ppg677

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#14 posted 11-11-2018 08:21 AM

After I almost put my hand onto a spinning blade, I realized $2500 was cheap insurance and I have no regrets.

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Fred Hargis

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#15 posted 11-11-2018 12:04 PM

When the SS patents expire, I would expect to see the same feature on almost every saw…we can only hope that others implement a system that’s as well thought out as what SS has on the market. They are great saws; just as important they have great CS is you even need them. I just hope that doesn’t change over tiem with the new ownership.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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