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jmos

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11-01-2018 02:15 PM

Topic tags/keywords: lathe turning

I’m taking the plunge into turning. I took a 2 day class last weekend and really liked it. So, I’m looking at what lathe to buy. I used the Jet 1221 in the class, so that’s the only experience I have.

I’m thinking I want the ability to turn table legs, so I want at least 35” between centers. I liked the bowl turning, so I want one large enough to turn a decent sized bowl.

I don’t have the budget or shop space for a really large, or expensive lathe. However, I’ve gone through enough tools that I don’t want to buy a cheap lather and replace it in a couple of years.

So, I seem to be falling into the 16” size, and I’m mostly looking at the Laguna 18/36, the Jet 1640EVS, and the Nova Galaxi 16/44.

After my last, and only experience with Grizzly, I’m steering clear. See my review on my 8” jointer; it turned out well, but the journey was painful. Not again.

The Laguna looks really nice, 2hp, 18” swing, heavy as heck. But, customer service reviews tend toward the bad, and the recent review posted in LJ makes me worried.

The Nova is also 2hp, but I’m concerned that maybe they’ve made a fairly simple tool too complicated with all the electronics. How reparable is it if needed? I’ve also seen a number of less than favorable reviews of the ‘bubble’ type buttons. However, there are no belts to change, which sounds nice.

The Jet is a bit more expensive that the other two, only 1.5hp, and the lightest of the bunch, but the reviews are solid, and a 5 year warranty is nice. I think I’m leaning in this direction.

So, please, I’d love to get some input from those with these lathes, or suggestions on others to look at. I did look at the Baileigh, and it seemed to be exactly the same as the Grizzly (0733), but I’m open to hearing differently.

-- John


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Hockey

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#1 posted 11-01-2018 02:52 PM

Of the 3 that you are considering, I only have experience with one of them, and that is the Jet, so I cannot comment as to the others. I have had Jet 1640evs for 4.5 months now, and use it almost daily. It has plenty of power for me, and does everything I ask of it. I think it is a great lathe.

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Steve

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#2 posted 11-01-2018 02:59 PM

I can’t help with any reviews of those lathes, but don’t forget about all the tools and a sharpening system that you’ll also need.

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socrbent

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#3 posted 11-01-2018 03:35 PM

I have had no experience with the Laguna or Jet, But I have never regretted purchasing my Nova DVR XP (1624) with 20” bed extension in 2013 which is similar to the current Galaxi. No repairs needed. I really enjoy the easy at which I can change speed. NO problems with control buttons. Nova machines and jaws are high quality.

Is the Laguna or Jet reverse-able? Beside the easy speed change being reverse-able is great when sanding. That would be an factor if I were choosing.

-- socrbent Ohio

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Jim Jakosh

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#4 posted 11-01-2018 05:42 PM

We have two Jet lathes at school and I would not recommend them. The Reeves drive pulleys have broken on both of then and one of them twice. I just put some Harbor Freight pulley halves on the one on Tuesday. I call them White Harbor Freight lathes. Maybe the electronic version works a lot better!

I have had two Craftsman lathes with Reeves drives and had to work on the drive on both of them several times- besides their motors are junk lately! I looked at putting an Electronic speed controlled Craftsman headstock on it and the reviews were very poor.

I wanted to get way from changing belts or Reeves drives so I bought the Nova Galaxi. I was looking at the Electronic Grizzly lathe but it did not come in 120V. I really like the Nova, but I have contacted them several times about the touch switches which I think are a very bad design for a woodworking tool. Mine was a Beta Test Model so they sent me they sent me a new front switch housing because the plastic face bubbled up on mine and sawdust got into the touch switches and they would not work. Guess what…the new housing had bubbles in the vinyl already and I had to tape the perimeter to keep the dust out.
If you do any indexing, the Nova lathes are real cumbersome to use that way. They have 24 detents inside a little round window that you have to use a flashlight to see them. I redesigned the indexing with 72 holes and it is super now. Other than those issues, I love to turn on that lathe.

A better lathe would a Powermatic 3520, but I did not want to spend the bucks and the bed is shorter than the Nova ( 16-44 and I use it all! )

cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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Phil32

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#5 posted 11-01-2018 05:57 PM

Since your plans for the first lathe are short term, I suggest you look for a used one. Find a local woodturners club if possible and make your interests known. Our local club has loaner lathes, and members are often disposing of old lathes as they upgrade to new ones.

The one I use now is an old Craftsman similar to the one I started on 70 years ago.

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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OSU55

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#6 posted 11-01-2018 09:22 PM

Too bad you are soured on Grizzly. Their 0766 for $2095 would be the deal. The Baileigh 18×47 for $2095 is less for the $, as are the Jet 18×40-EVS at $3100 and Laguna Revo 18×36 at $2500 for 220v. Don’t know about the northeast, but around Missouri used lathes in this class are just about impossible to find. Smaller ones a dime a dozen, but not 16” and up swing. As with most brands, the actual mfg plant for the jointer is not likely the same as a lathe, but it is your decision to make.

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#7 posted 11-02-2018 12:00 AM



We have two Jet lathes at school and I would not recommend them. The Reeves drive pulleys have broken on both of then and one of them twice. I just put some Harbor Freight pulley halves on the one on Tuesday. I call them White Harbor Freight lathes. Maybe the electronic version works a lot better!

I have had two Craftsman lathes with Reeves drives and had to work on the drive on both of them several times- besides their motors are junk lately! I looked at putting an Electronic speed controlled Craftsman headstock on it and the reviews were very poor.

I wanted to get way from changing belts or Reeves drives so I bought the Nova Galaxi. I was looking at the Electronic Grizzly lathe but it did not come in 120V. I really like the Nova, but I have contacted them several times about the touch switches which I think are a very bad design for a woodworking tool. Mine was a Beta Test Model so they sent me they sent me a new front switch housing because the plastic face bubbled up on mine and sawdust got into the touch switches and they would not work. Guess what…the new housing had bubbles in the vinyl already and I had to tape the perimeter to keep the dust out.
If you do any indexing, the Nova lathes are real cumbersome to use that way. They have 24 detents inside a little round window that you have to use a flashlight to see them. I redesigned the indexing with 72 holes and it is super now. Other than those issues, I love to turn on that lathe.

A better lathe would a Powermatic 3520, but I did not want to spend the bucks and the bed is shorter than the Nova ( 16-44 and I use it all! )

cheers, Jim

- Jim Jakosh

I bought the Nova Saturn about 2 mos ago and I really like the lathe. Pretty much the same motor and controls as thr Galaxy. Smoothe and quiet. Everything lines up nicely. No belts to deal with and very easy and responsive speed control. But like you I do not like the plastic covered on/off switches. So far that’s my only gripe about the lathe.

Dave

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jmos

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#8 posted 11-02-2018 10:43 AM

Thanks all. Interesting replies.

I do not believe the Jet 1640 had a Reeve drive (the 14” model does, one reason I’m not looking at it), I have seen a number of things recommending to avoid this type of set-up.

I have been looking at Craigslist for a few months, and haven’t seen anything decent come up; mostly overpriced old junk.

I get the attraction with Grizzly, but I don’t think I want to go that route again after my last experience with them.

Jim, I did see your review and really appreciated you posting it. It’s one of the reasons the Galaxi is on my list.

-- John

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Bill Commerford

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#9 posted 11-02-2018 11:49 AM

I have had the Laguna 18/36 for almost 2 years now and happy with it. I use it daily, and it has held up well. I had a problem with a relay in first year, Laguna had a new one here in 2 days, then led me through the install.

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TheDane

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#10 posted 11-02-2018 02:32 PM

FWIW, I decided on the PM 3520C with swing-away tailstock about 6 months ago … great lathe, no regrets! It was more than I wanted to spend, but IMHO, it is a lifetime purchase.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Wildwood

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#11 posted 11-02-2018 02:58 PM

If price alone the deciding factor would choose the Laguna-revo 18/36.

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/teknatool-nova-galaxi-dvr-1644-lathe

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/laguna-revo-18-36-lathe-110v-1-5-hp

Not sure will see much improovement between 1 ¾ or 1 ½ HP & 2 HP although bigger motor will draw less amps. If don’t have 220V service already not extra cost of lathe worth the effort.

Have the old Jet 16/42 1.5 HP lathe and love it bought mind before price got over $2,000. Mine came with 5 year warranty too and never used it.

While like Jet lathes have own two without a problem might be willing to look elsewhere today.

Would not want rely on any wood lathe manufacturers warranty most involve shipping to repair center at your expense. Optimum word is limited Warranty.

Whatever and whereever you buy check the store or web site policy concerning returns, refunds, and restocking fees.

-- Bill

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jmos

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#12 posted 11-04-2018 02:39 PM

Thanks for the input all.

I’d love to go for the Powermatic, but that’s more than my entire budget, including tools and sharpening gear and accessories.

It might just end up depending on which of the three goes on sale for the best price. I’ve warmed up to the idea of the Galaxi; I think either of the three would work.

-- John

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Jack Lewis

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#13 posted 11-04-2018 03:41 PM


I m taking the plunge into turning. I took a 2 day class last weekend and really liked it. So, I m looking at what lathe to buy. I used the Jet 1221 in the class, so that s the only experience I have.

I m thinking I want the ability to turn table legs, so I want at least 35” between centers. I liked the bowl turning, so I want one large enough to turn a decent sized bowl.

I don t have the budget or shop space for a really large, or expensive lathe. However, I ve gone through enough tools that I don t want to buy a cheap lather and replace it in a couple of years.

So, I seem to be falling into the 16” size, and I m mostly looking at the Laguna 18/36, the Jet 1640EVS, and the Nova Galaxi 16/44.

After my last, and only experience with Grizzly, I m steering clear. See my review on my 8” jointer; it turned out well, but the journey was painful. Not again.

The Laguna looks really nice, 2hp, 18” swing, heavy as heck. But, customer service reviews tend toward the bad, and the recent review posted in LJ makes me worried.

The Nova is also 2hp, but I m concerned that maybe they ve made a fairly simple tool too complicated with all the electronics. How reparable is it if needed? I ve also seen a number of less than favorable reviews of the bubble type buttons. However, there are no belts to change, which sounds nice.

The Jet is a bit more expensive that the other two, only 1.5hp, and the lightest of the bunch, but the reviews are solid, and a 5 year warranty is nice. I think I m leaning in this direction.

So, please, I d love to get some input from those with these lathes, or suggestions on others to look at. I did look at the Baileigh, and it seemed to be exactly the same as the Grizzly (0733), but I m open to hearing differently.

- jmos


Too bad you are soured on Grizzly. Their 0766 for $2095 would be the deal. The Baileigh 18×47 for $2095 is less for the $, as are the Jet 18×40-EVS at $3100 and Laguna Revo 18×36 at $2500 for 220v. Don t know about the northeast, but around Missouri used lathes in this class are just about impossible to find. Smaller ones a dime a dozen, but not 16” and up swing. As with most brands, the actual mfg plant for the jointer is not likely the same as a lathe, but it is your decision to make.

- OSU55

I have upgraded from Grizzly 0462 to the Grizzly 0766 and have all good to say about it. It could use a longer bed or extension for your app but otherwise it has performed admirably. When I was making my comparisons with other lathes of same caliber, my opinion was ” they are mostly made under the same foreign conditions and factories as each other” and the only difference is the QC at this end or the service after sale. As with any model you chose there will be give and take on the bells and whistles, good and bad.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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Crooktail

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#14 posted 11-04-2018 03:45 PM

Komsomol,
I don’t know if this is a good enough deal for you but I found it the other day. The lathe is sold by CPO Outlet through Sears.

https://www.sears.com/nova-55214-galaxi-dvr-220v-1.75-hp-wood/p-SPM14836091728?plpSellerId=CPO%20Outlets&prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3

Wayne

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bigJohninvegas

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#15 posted 11-10-2018 12:48 AM

I have a Jet 16X42 evs. Been using it for several years now. Rock solid with no issues.
I have 20 plus hours on a Laguna 24/36. Seems to be a very nice lathe with good features.
While I have no Laguna customer service experience. I too hear nothing good about it.
Sorry to hear you are turned off by Grizzly. I really knew nothing about Grizzly when I bought my jet.
But a couple friends have purchased the Grizzly lathe and love it. While my jet has been solid, I sometimes wish I had the Grizzly. I would have got more swing for less money. Bang for the buck issue.
So a couple years ago now, I bought a Grizzly 17” band saw. Been a great tool.
Maybe I am lucky on that one, cause I do hear bad things about there customer service too.
Like Jim said. Stay away from Reeves drives. My Jet is a EVS. I hear good about DVR as well.
Good Luck.

-- John

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