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Forum topic by Jimothy posted 10-08-2018 04:27 AM 1310 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jimothy

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10-08-2018 04:27 AM

Hey y’all. I’m making a small table and the top is made of patterned end grain. I cut my pieces 2 inch thick but once everything was glued up some pieces were misaligned so I’m guessing by the time I plain it down i’ll have lost about 1/4 inch. 1 3/4 is thick enough for a table top right ?

My other question is regarding wood movement. If I glued the top to the legs/apron then it would be end grain glued to long grain going in the completely other direction. Im thinking this might break the end grain top if there is too much wood movement from the long grain ? would screwing it instead of gluing it allow more movement?

i just dont want my work cracking and falling apart once the seasons change!

This also made me think of something my grandfather said which confused me. He ran a wood shop his entire life so I tend to assume he knows what he saying but I also have heard the opposite. Recently I made a table top out of cedar. About 22” long 15” wide and 7/8 thick. He suggested I glue pieces across the grain width-wise to add strength… but I’ve also heard that it doesnt allow the wood to move and thats not good. I’m not sure which makes more sense.

Thanks!


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 10-08-2018 07:04 AM

I’m making a small table and the top is made of patterned end grain.

Does this mean like an end grain cutting board?

I wouldn’t glue it do. Error on the side of safety.

http://www.craftsmanspace.com/knowledge/17-ways-to-fasten-a-tabletop.html

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Jimothy

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#2 posted 10-09-2018 01:31 AM

Yeah its basically an end grain cutting board that’s attached to legs haha

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WDHLT15

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#3 posted 10-09-2018 12:33 PM

Use table top fasteners to attach the top to the aprons. Like these:

https://www.rockler.com/table-top-fasteners?sid=V9146?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsZuB9q753QIVRV8NCh0SsgwLEAQYASABEgJH6PD_BwE

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#4 posted 10-09-2018 02:24 PM

Do not use glue or screws, use the Z clips that WDHLT15 recommends. That top is going to move in both width and length, whereas the apron should not move, so you are going to have problems if you do not build in an allowance for movement.

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#5 posted 10-09-2018 03:21 PM

Excellent advice above ^

I make mine out of dominos.

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