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Forum topic by CWWoodworking posted 09-28-2018 11:39 PM 940 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-28-2018 11:39 PM

I love the machine, but I am on my 3rd one in 3 years. The first one had a design flaw, a cord was too short. Kreg replaced it no charge, which was cool. 2nd one just went dead.

I am hard on it. Probably use 15,000 screws this year.

Anyone use a heavier duty machine?


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#1 posted 09-29-2018 01:25 AM

Go with a castle machine.

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#2 posted 09-29-2018 01:47 AM



Go with a castle machine.

- Jared_S

100%. All pocket holes are not created equal and once you use a low angle pocket hole you will never go back. The 2 step process takes an extra couple of seconds a hole but that time is saved 10 fold on assembly time.

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#3 posted 09-29-2018 01:57 AM

How hard is it to switch to thicker material? I use 3 different settings on a consistent basis.

I am sold on the low angle. I don’t use clamps in assembly so it sounds great if it works.

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#4 posted 09-29-2018 02:06 AM

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#5 posted 09-29-2018 02:31 AM


How hard is it to switch to thicker material? I use 3 different settings on a consistent basis.

I am sold on the low angle. I don’t use clamps in assembly so it sounds great if it works.

- CWWoodworking

Changing thickness is a non-issue most will be within the tolerance of the quick clamp’s range, if not you just need to adjust the quick clamp, that is assuming you just get the TSM-12, even less of an issue if you move up to the floor standing machines.

I know there is a big difference in price but as soon as you touch the TSM-12 you will realize it is built like a tank compared to a Foreman.

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#6 posted 09-29-2018 02:35 AM



Looks like a winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=dOYGHb8sduY

- waho6o9

That is the 100 I would NOT suggest it for 15,000 holes per year, at a minimum a TSM-12 for that level but that volume should support the capital investment of a TSM-22 in saved time.

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#7 posted 09-29-2018 02:39 AM

Good to know thanks AHuxley.

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#8 posted 09-29-2018 02:51 AM


Looks like a winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=dOYGHb8sduY

- waho6o9

That is the 100 I would NOT suggest it for 15,000 holes per year, at a minimum a TSM-12 for that level but that volume should support the capital investment of a TSM-22 in saved time.

- AHuxley


It also weights 11 pounds. Seems like a guy might grow some mussels after 15000 screws.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#9 posted 09-29-2018 03:16 AM


It also weights 11 pounds. Seems like a guy might grow some mussels after 15000 screws.

- AlaskaGuy

Even the 100 is what I would consider overbuilt. I played with it at IWF while yacking with Feddie (the guy in the Castle video linked above AKA Got It Made on youtube). It is something for someone that makes a set or two of cabinets a year or is planning to make a single set and just wants to use low angle pockets. It is their way to compete with the $400 Kreg. But the TSM-12 is where the real production starts, but it simply can’t compete on price using 2 Bosch router motors and being made in the US but it is a different world in terms of build quality.

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#10 posted 09-29-2018 04:41 AM

You could also look for a old porter cable production pocket cutter (re badged castle tsm-10) if you are shopping on the used market.

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#11 posted 12-17-2018 08:08 PM

Yes, old post I know…..

I just bought a used one on CL and when the guy plugged it in the motor cut out when he pulled the handle. Of course he said it was the first time it did that, and maybe so…but yes – the wire that comes out of the handle and turns into the junction box should have a loop or something so it doesn’t kink and break. I e-mailed Kreg and they are sending me a new wire. I may do something different and put a paddle switch on the front though…

15,000 screws a year doesn’t seem like a quality issue as much as it it is overusing a prosumer/hobby tool.

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