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Forum topic by Klaatu9898 posted 09-06-2018 01:09 PM 2431 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Klaatu9898

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09-06-2018 01:09 PM

Hello all!

Today I have an old Delta Homecraft 8” table saw (circa 1954), which runs really well and cuts nice, but the fence just SUCKS (expected). I’ve looked into retrofitting it to accept a new fence, but even then I am still stuck with an 8” saw that can’t be retrofitted with a riving knife, there’s NO room on the throat plate for a splitter, and I surely don’t want to add a splitter to the cast iron top, so it’s time for something new.

I was considering a Grizzly G0771Z, but after a lot of thought, I think I am better suited (mostly budget but not entirely) with either the Ridgid R4512 or the Delta 36-725. I’ve already read most of the threads on here regarding the comparisons, but I think I am really coming down to the fence being the deciding factor.

The fence on the Delta appears to be a reskinned Beisemeyer for all intents and purposes, it that the case? Are there enough fundamental differences between the two where you might say one is clearly better than the other? There is about $70 worth of difference between the two saws, and if the fence is better on the Delta I will likely go that route, but I thought I would get everyone’s take on it before I pull the trigger.

Thanks in advance!

-- Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain


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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 09-06-2018 01:20 PM

I like the delta fence better if it was me I did a lot of research on both and found both have good spots and bad spots if you find a Lowes that will except a HF coupon that makes the delta a little cheaper then r4512 ….. GOOD LUCK :<))

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#2 posted 09-06-2018 03:12 PM

I do like the fence on the Delta better than the Ridgid, but there are some significant differences between that Delta fence and a Biese. The Delta is more like a Biese “Lite”, and is much more similar to the aftermarket Delta T3 fence.

IIRC, the 36-725 fence has a two-piece front rail….not so on the Biese or the T3. The Biese also has larger heavier duty tubing on the rail and the fence. The faces are also made from different materials. There’s a pretty big price difference too.

Delta 36-725 fence:

Delta T3:

Biesemeyer Commercial fence:

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lumbering_on

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#3 posted 09-06-2018 03:55 PM

I have a Delta 36-725 and I found the fence to be quite good, but I did notice that the it’s easier to read the numbers on the Rigid. The reason I bought the Delta was really due to two factors. The first that I found it easier to install a router table on the Delta. The big reason, however, was that the Rigid had a known issue with the blade deflecting due to the trunnion. I’m not sure if this is still an issue, but if it is then I would stay away from the Rigid.

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dday

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#4 posted 09-06-2018 04:11 PM

I also have the Delta and love the fence. I’ve had mine for going on 3 years and haven’t had an issue with the two piece rail. If you do, I know that some people have replaced it with a singe piece of angle.

I’ve got a router table hung in the right wing and it’s a great workhorse.

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#5 posted 09-06-2018 07:31 PM



I also have the Delta and love the fence. I ve had mine for going on 3 years and haven t had an issue with the two piece rail. If you do, I know that some people have replaced it with a singe piece of angle.

I ve got a router table hung in the right wing and it s a great workhorse.

- dday

+1
I also have a router hung on the right (re-purposed portable Kreg router table top). I did replace the face of the fence with some melamine, as the aluminum faces were slightly concave, but I’ve been very happy with its performance. And the riving knife is a nice feature, and easily removed for non-through cuts or when using my cross cut sled.

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ppg677

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#6 posted 09-07-2018 12:53 AM

The fence on the R4512 is the Achilles heel of that saw. It has problems locking down reliably perpendicular. Aligning doesn’t help.

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bigJohninvegas

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#7 posted 09-07-2018 02:42 AM



The fence on the R4512 is the Achilles heel of that saw. It has problems locking down reliably perpendicular. Aligning doesn t help.

- ppg677

I have the rigid r4512. And to say the fence is the Achilles heel is an understatement. That fence is a total piece of crap. I have upgraded to a biesemeyer commercial fence that I got real cheap. Made a good saw out of it. But for the money I have in it now. I could have bought the grizzly.

-- John

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#8 posted 09-07-2018 04:51 AM

I would call the Delta’s fence a cheap Beissmeyer style fence. A reasonably good fence but I also have the problem where the faces are slightly cupped, probably because they over torqued the bolts. One of these days I’ll make some new faces for it but as long as I am careful it doesn’t cause a problem.

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ppg677

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#9 posted 09-07-2018 08:48 AM


The fence on the R4512 is the Achilles heel of that saw. It has problems locking down reliably perpendicular. Aligning doesn t help.

- ppg677

I have the rigid r4512. And to say the fence is the Achilles heel is an understatement. That fence is a total piece of crap. I have upgraded to a biesemeyer commercial fence that I got real cheap. Made a good saw out of it. But for the money I have in it now. I could have bought the grizzly.

- bigJohninvegas

Agree. I had an R4512 before upgrading to a SawStop PCS. Fence was garbage. Made the saw unsafe.

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#10 posted 09-07-2018 03:55 PM

Note that I tried to use a Harbor Freight coupon at Lowes when I bought my 725 less than a month ago. My particular store told me that they would give me 10% off. That just so happens to make it the same price as the Rigid.

I also really like this saw so far. I added saw stop cast iron wings that I found on ebay and changed out the throat plate to a zero clearance. the saw aligned really well with adjustment. Using a micrometer, everything is really good. The table is not perfectly flat, but it is close. To be honest, the saw stop wings are less flat than the table. The fence is great (in my novice opinion) and easily adjustable to the table. the two piece rails are a non issue, at least on my specific machine. They went together easily and perfectly straight.

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Klaatu9898

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#11 posted 09-10-2018 12:09 PM

Wow, thank you all for your responses. It seems to be unanimous, which certainly is making my decision making much easier.

Now if I can just get my old table saw sold… It’s on Craigslist, hope I can get it gone soon!

-- Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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