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trsnider

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09-02-2018 01:57 AM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw laguna 1412 fence rail

My frustration with the 1412 bandsaw continues. The fence and rail system is pretty sloppy and seems cheap. When I start to lock down the fence the far side of the fence shifts ~1/32” (maybe more) making fine adjustments almost impossible. The only way I found to somewhat correct this is to hold the down the far side of the fence in an attempt to keep it from moving while the fence knob was tightened. This isn’t a solution—fine adjustment of the fence is almost impossible. Maybe the rail is undersized or the fence support is oversized. I suppose I could try shimming the inside of the fence support with uhmw tape but that would eventually become compressed and the sloppyness would reappear.

Has anyone experienced this / come up with a solution? I could buy an aftermarket rail/fence system but my budget has reached its limit.

Seems to me that a bandsaw for this price shouldn’t have these kind of issues.


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#1 posted 09-02-2018 02:38 AM

Yes, I have noticed this too but don’t believe it’s an issue once you know what it’s doing. When the nut is loose the fence does not sit square on the rail. Tightening the nut squares the fence up. When you tighten the nut it moves the front end of the fence to the right slightly, but that makes it square. When the nut is tightened I can cut 3’ long strips of 1/16’ veneer perfectly so I know it’s square when it’s tight. I think it’s like any other fence like on a table saw. You wouldn’t check fence/blade alignment without locking down the fence. If it’s not locked down it’s not square. I love my 1412. Best tool investment I’ve ever made and the alignment was perfect when I put it together right out of the box almost a year ago and still is. Fence is square with zero drift.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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trsnider

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#2 posted 09-02-2018 02:46 AM

Hey Andy,
Squareness & resawing isn’t the issue. The saw works great for that. It’s the ability to adjust the fence 1/64th (or less) accurately. Iwant to make Greene and Greene finger joints (similar to box joints) on the 1412 and need the pieces to fit together without slop. As I said getting that fine of an adjustment—without to much trial and error—has been frustrating.
Tim

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#3 posted 09-02-2018 03:25 AM

Could you one of those magnetic blocks to make the precise adjustments you need? use a feeler gauge to get the distance you want to move from your existing locked down fence, put the mag block down, move the fence over and lock it down. Just a thought.

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#4 posted 09-02-2018 07:54 AM

1/64” or less repeatable adjustment on a bandsaw? You’re asking something of that tool that it’s not designed for. I have that same saw and the results are great. If squareness and resawing are not an issue like you mentioned, it’s working perfectly.

Finger joints on a bandsaw will most likely require fettling with a chisel no matter what you do. Try a table saw or router with the appropriate jig instead. Best of luck.

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#5 posted 09-02-2018 10:07 AM

The only bandsaw fence that is going to give you easy adjustments on that level of accuracy is one based on a lead screw like the Driftmaster. Joinery can certainly be done on a bandsaw but it isn’t the most straightforward or accurate unless you use some sort of jig.

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#6 posted 09-02-2018 02:03 PM

I have never experienced the problem you are describing because I understand the mechanics of the situation and adjust the fence by gripping the fence in the same way the clinch knob would. This fence was obviously not designed to be self squaring when the clinch knob is loose. Most other modestly priced band saws are the same way. Sometimes you have to adapt your technique to the tool. If you want near perfection, spend 3 grand.

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trsnider

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#7 posted 09-02-2018 02:59 PM

ok—Looks like I’ll rethink this. I thought making the joints onthe bandsaw would be a quieter/nicer… experience than on the table saw. Looks like a jig may be in order instead of using the fence exclusively.

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#8 posted 09-03-2018 07:38 PM


Hey Andy,
Squareness & resawing isn t the issue. The saw works great for that. It s the ability to adjust the fence 1/64th (or less) accurately. Iwant to make Greene and Greene finger joints (similar to box joints) on the 1412 and need the pieces to fit together without slop. As I said getting that fine of an adjustment—without to much trial and error—has been frustrating.
Tim
- trsnider

Sorry. I misunderstood. Agree with everyone else. Adjusting a bs fence in 64ths (or less) is probably asking too much of the tool. Since the fence is square when tight I think any shim you installed might make the fence “un-square”.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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sawneck

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#9 posted 01-24-2019 02:09 AM

Get the Carter magna fence and the problem is solved. I personally have the same issue with my fence but i’ve learned to compensate for it, and the carter FAST system helps provie a second reference point. To be honest I dont know how anyone has a band saw without them. Especially if you want to use it for joinery, Fast and Carter Fence would be an amazing set up.

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ArtMann

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#10 posted 01-24-2019 02:44 PM

I would not use a fence when cutting the fingers anyway.

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#11 posted 01-27-2019 02:25 AM

Man, and here I thought the 1412 was almost flawless. Disappointing….

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