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Andybb

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08-31-2018 08:26 PM

Working on my first project that requires a bunch of m&t joints, but my OCD is raging. Do I want to spend $175 for a used Jet JBM-5 or use my newly made $0.00 cost Jay Bates router mortise jig that works great then square the mortises or use a sharp chisel and round the tenons? I can actually trade a shotgun that’s been in the safe for 15 years for the JBM, but I will probably only use the JBM once or twice a year (which is more often than I go bird hunting). I’m trying to upgrade the quality of my work. I’m practicing on some 2×4’s before using the good stuff.

-- Andy - Seattle USA


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ralbuck

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#1 posted 08-31-2018 09:11 PM

You maybe getting a good trade; but, then you might not be either.

I would check the value of that shotgun! They are increasing; not decreasing in value for decent ones!

My handgun is now worth more used than I paid new for it 15 years ago.

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Andybb

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#2 posted 08-31-2018 09:17 PM

Good point. Regardless of the value of the gun….do I want a mortiser??

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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Andre

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#3 posted 08-31-2018 10:03 PM

Years ago I bought the Drill press M & T attachment, used it once, after all the set up and preparing never came out of the box again, then I started cutting with hand chisels, every time I have to cut a few mortises I think about buying a machine for about 2 seconds before grabbing a chisel and mallet!
I did buy a horizontal mortise machine that has been used at least 10 times in the 4 years?
Funny thing is I also have a safe full of guns that have not seen light in years? Problem here in Canada, hard to sell guns privately. No matter, sounds like our wonderful Government is thinking about banning them!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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robscastle

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#4 posted 08-31-2018 10:04 PM

No you do not want to buy a mortiser,
however you want your son to buy you a mortiser and recover some of that invested $400K tee tee
Fathers Day hint hint

Thats a bit of a “joke” BTW ...just in case you missed it and got offended.

-- Regards Rob

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#5 posted 08-31-2018 10:05 PM

I have the domino xl (with Seneca adaptor) and the jet HCM. I use both (and I still use a router for some awkward or non standard mortises.)

I’d get the jet, though I’d be inclined to just buy rather than trade.

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Andybb

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#6 posted 08-31-2018 10:09 PM


No you do not want to buy a mortiser,
however you want your son to buy you a mortiser and recover some of that invested $400K tee tee Thats a bit of a “joke” BTW ...just in case you missed it and got offended.

- robscastle

LOL!! The frame! The frame! :-)


Funny thing is I also have a safe full of guns that have not seen light in years? Problem here in Canada, hard to sell guns privately. No matter, sounds like our wonderful Government is thinking about banning them!
- Andre

I make it a point to never get political here but I’d gladly give up my guns in exchange for an end to this school shooting madness. Then they’d have to pry that mortiser from my cold dead hands!

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#7 posted 08-31-2018 10:26 PM

Can your router mortising jig do rail ends? If so, there’s no need to chisel anything, just mill a long piece of tenon stock and use a rounding over bit so you can cut off loose tenons.

If the mortising jig you have now doesn’t do rail ends, you can build the Morley Mortiser.

-- My grandfather always said that when one door closes, another one opens. He was a wonderful man, but a lousy cabinet maker

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Andybb

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#8 posted 08-31-2018 10:35 PM


Can your router mortising jig do rail ends? If so, there s no need to chisel anything, just mill a long piece of tenon stock and use a rounding over bit so you can cut off loose tenons.

If the mortising jig you have now doesn t do rail ends, you can build the Morley Mortiser.

- Rich

Yeah, I was reading your Morley post last night. I have a Beadlock loose tenon jig that works great but the issue with this project is that some of the tenons are angled and a real pain to line up with the Beadlock Pro.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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Fred Hargis

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#9 posted 09-01-2018 10:51 AM

There are many ways to cut mortises without a mortiser, I just don’t see the need for one.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Kirk650

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#10 posted 09-01-2018 01:39 PM

I have the JBM5 mortiser. It doesn’t get used that often, but I’m glad I have it when I do need it. I get accurate repeatable mortises every time. Very glad I have it.

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TheFridge

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#11 posted 09-01-2018 01:51 PM

You don’t need one. But. When you have a bunch of mortises to do it’ll knock them out quick.

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Jared_S

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#12 posted 09-01-2018 05:00 PM

You don’t need anything other than a chisel for all wordworking.. but all that other stuff sure makes it easier and faster.

Honestly none of the bench top versions are all that great. However the old iron 1000lb+ floor models from Oliver, crescent, wadkin..or even powermatic take up a lot more space.

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Andybb

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#13 posted 09-01-2018 05:18 PM

Thanks everyone for the input. After a lot of bickering with myself I think I am NOT going to get the mortiser at this point. Without it the only additional step I need to take is to round the tenons which is about an extra minute in the process for each. A file or sharp chisel seems to make quick work of it and will build my chiseling skills which I have not spent much time developing. The router jig cuts clean precise mortises albeit with rounded ends. At this point it seems a minor inconvenience. Gonna spend $10 at Lowes for a dovetail saw. I can then use the same process as in the build video and just round the edges of the tenons.

Although I reserve the right to change my mind later today. :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#14 posted 09-01-2018 06:39 PM

I have a mortiser, a cheapo Harbor Freight unit that does the job quite well. If I didn’t have that, I would have gone with a jig / router setup, and may still sell the HF morsiter in favor of a jig just to save shop space…

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Andybb

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#15 posted 09-01-2018 07:31 PM



I have a mortiser, a cheapo Harbor Freight unit that does the job quite well. If I didn t have that, I would have gone with a jig / router setup, and may still sell the HF morsiter in favor of a jig just to save shop space…

- dbhost


Yeah, I am also out of counter space which is another consideration.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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