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Forum topic by Markmh1 posted 08-30-2018 03:39 PM 7387 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Markmh1

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08-30-2018 03:39 PM

I see where some fellows have snuggled a router table in their Sawstop table saw extension. These seem to be made of a collection of parts available from various sources. Wow, my hat is off to them. I don’t think/know if I have the engineering skills to be successful at something like this.

What I’d like to know is, has anyone bought a ready made router extension from Sawstop? I’ve seen pictures of these but haven’t heard from the man on the street.

I’ve talked to Sawstop, and instead of their usual helpful answers, I got answers that I couldn’t see in my mind clearly what I would all need, and what I would have to do.

For instance, the angle iron bars that support the T-glide fence would have to be replaced. I understand the need for clearance of the miter gauge at the router end of the extension, but could the existing rails be modified to provide this clearance? When I asked Sawstop this question, the subject was skillfully changed. Will I need new holes in different locations?

Sawstop recommends the integral mobile base be substituted with their hydraulic mobile base. Could I just step down on the integrated base, lift the saw, then manually lift the router end to move the saw around?

What about the cast iron midsection that replaces the black Sawstop midsection? Anyone put this in?

Any other surprises I should know about?

And what about the Sawstop 4 post, chain drive router lift? How is this working out?

I’d hate to spend this kind of money just to be disappointed.

Thanks,
Mark


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#1 posted 08-31-2018 03:17 AM

Not just Sawstop, virtually any TS can sport a router table in the wing. I’m not terribly tuned in to SawStop happenings as I don’t own one. I do not think Gass has one with the companies logo on it, but???? Maybe I’ve just not seen it.

Because they seem to be becoming popular a lot of folks are making adaptive pieces that will work with them, without major retrofit. A few router table fences noted here

I may be wrong, but it is my belief the majority of users, again with any saw brand make their router wings from wood, very similar to any other router table. They use the same bolt holes already attached through the fence rail mounts, swap in longer bolts, and go through a wooden frame, At the side of the saw they can bolt through the outer holes on the existing wing.

The biggest concern with a wing outrigger and working on it, is that the saw could become tippy without support from the wing to the ground level, usually mounted on a rolling bases metal frame. Downward force would just dissipate into the base, rather than cause the saw to become unstable.

Info both ways on You Tube.

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#2 posted 08-31-2018 03:51 AM

I have been looking at adding a router table to the extension of my old Walker Turner table saw, and came across the SawStop router table as well. I’ve seen them at Rockler a few times, and they seem nice, but they don’t see any nicer than any of the other offerings.

Most if not all of what they have for the router table stuff is just rebranded items. Start looking around and you’ll see all kinds of different brands on things that look the same.

Excalibur has almost everything sawstop does, and the fences all look like Kreg to me

https://general.ca/accessory-products/excalibur-router-table-accessories/

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#3 posted 08-31-2018 07:57 AM

I have a Kreg router table and lift, two homemade router stations. One with a rockler table and rockler lift and one with a homemade table with a triton router. I would not want to have the router setup on the Tablesaw only to need to lower the router to use the saw. I am happy with all except the rockler lift. I had to tighten the lift travel and it’s harder to turn but doesn’t slip any more. I personally like a separate router table. When I make cabinets I setup all the router stations for different bits and use the Tablesaw to cut plywood, and door parts. Overkill yes but once setup things go easy and fast.

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#4 posted 08-31-2018 01:34 PM

About this time last year, I was waiting for Sawstop to release their router table, I would call and ask when it was going to be released… around December I started getting some details on price and configuration. it seemed like it would be around $800 to upgrade my SS contractor saw to use the insert!

I went with a Benchdog insert on sale from Rockler. I think it was 20% off, so around $270. It wasn’t hard to fit, I did have to buy two longer screws for the outer most holes. The far left edge of the fence rail covered part of the miter slot, so I had to remove a 1/4 inch by 1/4 inch section of the rail. Not so big a deal. Moving the controller box was a little harder, but still not to bad. I have a PC router with table top adjusting, so no real router lift.

I had the stamped metal inset, so the insert is attached to the actual table top.

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#5 posted 09-24-2018 11:16 PM

I went crazy and bought the Sawstop extension wing, including the downdraft box, for my 52” Sawstop. You do need either to purchase the updated rails or modify yours in order to access the bolts on the edges of the router table. Modifying is not all that big a deal if you’re comfortable with a disk grinder. I also had to cut down the laminate extension table. The whole thing works really well. The only drawback is that chips tend to build up in the threads of the lift, which tends to reduce the amount of travel available. I find myself blowing out the threads with compressed air on a regular basis.

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#6 posted 10-10-2020 05:27 AM



I went crazy and bought the Sawstop extension wing, including the downdraft box, for my 52” Sawstop. You do need either to purchase the updated rails or modify yours in order to access the bolts on the edges of the router table. Modifying is not all that big a deal if you re comfortable with a disk grinder. I also had to cut down the laminate extension table. The whole thing works really well. The only drawback is that chips tend to build up in the threads of the lift, which tends to reduce the amount of travel available. I find myself blowing out the threads with compressed air on a regular basis.

- KimR

Late reply- Do you have any photos of your setup? I have a 52” SS and wondering how to setup my Benchdog cast iron top. Do you have issues with weight & the mobile base (if you have one)?

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#7 posted 10-10-2020 01:34 PM

I purchased the INCRA router table extension (with dust collection box) for my SS ICS with the hydraulic lift. Very pleased with the design and performance of the product. I already had the INCRA fence system and this integrates well. One good benefit is when I need more room against the fence, I can flip the fence around and use from the left side and get all the room I need.
Extension works with the lift and is still able to move around in my shop. I did have the extension wing legs already on the table.

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#8 posted 10-10-2020 08:32 PM

I have a Benchdog router table extension wing on my Unisaw. No support from the ground, and it is not the least bit tippy. The BD includes a decent router table fence, which can mount either inboard or outboard of the router bit (there are two sets of mounting slots for the fence in the table extension.)

I purchased the INCRA Mast-R-Lift-II-R lift at the same time, from the same Rockler store, and they confirmed the two were compatible.

The lift fits a wide variety of router motors, without using additional, extra-cost adapters.

I am very pleased with this setup.

-- Andy - Arlington TX

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#9 posted 10-13-2020 03:12 PM


Late reply- Do you have any photos of your setup? I have a 52” SS and wondering how to setup my Benchdog cast iron top. Do you have issues with weight & the mobile base (if you have one)?
- tcaz

I have an original Bench Dog cast iron extension wing (before Bench Dog was acquired by Rockler) that I used on my Unisaw. It worked so well I kept it to use on my new SawStop ICS. I found, however, that the SawStop ICS table is 30” deep. The Bench dog extension was made for the 27” deep Unisaw table, so it was 3” shy of fitting my SawStop. Also, the mounting holes didn’t match the Saw Stop’s mounting holes. I made a template and took it and the table extension to my local machine shop and had the Mounting holes milled to fit the SawStop. I ordered two sections of 1/4” X 1 1/2” square extruded aluminum tubing that I drilled and tapped to fill the gaps between the ends of the table extension and the fence rails. It has worked perfectly. It’s solid as a rock. Since it is firmly attached to the stout fence rails front and back, I see no need to add supporting legs. It has been in use for 4 years and has worked perfectly. Here’s a couple of photos:

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