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Forum topic by TJ65 posted 08-23-2018 02:38 AM 647 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-23-2018 02:38 AM

Hi guys,
Haven’t been on here for ages but thought that you might be able to help.
I am currently working on a walking staff and am up to the finishing stages. I have painted carved areas with acrylic and wanted to know if I can put a natural or coloured OIL or WAX “under” the final coats of polyurethane.

On the instructions on the tin you can use a natural teak oil “AFTER”a coat of polyurethane to give it a natural look.
Any help would be appreciated thanks

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#1 posted 08-23-2018 03:03 AM

Not sure about oil topcoat and acrylic underneath.

Not sure about the oil the poly though I think that’ll be ok.

I am sure you don’t want to wax before poly or it won’t adhere.

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#2 posted 08-23-2018 03:11 AM

Don’t put wax down first, poly won’t stick to it.

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#3 posted 08-23-2018 03:49 AM

Oil stain, wipe off the excess…let dry until you no longer can smell it….then the poly…later you can add wax over the poly…..or, just buff the poly once it is fully dry.

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#4 posted 08-23-2018 04:22 AM

We ALL agree… You DO NOT put anything OVER the WAX… Wax is always the Final top coat, if used.

Oil first and wait until FULLY CURED… and to be safe, wait some more… Then cover with Poly…
... and, if you want, wax on top of the poly!

Bottom line, Wax is always optional.

Once OIL has been applied & is cured,
... then, optionally covered with poly for additional PROTECTION…
... then, optionally covered with a wax for more beauty.

Combo’s that are ALL OK:
Wax all by itself. (you like the Natural colors and poly protection is not needed)
Oil all by itself. (you like the stained / oiled look… poly protection not needed)
Oil, then Poly. (you like the stained / oil but also need poly protection)
Oil, then Poly, then Wax. (you like the stained / oil, want poly protection, and the beauty of wax)

Looking forward to seeing your Final project! :)

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#5 posted 08-23-2018 10:17 AM

Hi there.
I never use anything over wax,( on furniture wax attracts dust.) as for poly over oil , wait at least 24 hours. ( that is with mild temperature outside ) otherwise wait a bit more.
Have a nice day in the shop.

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#6 posted 08-23-2018 11:22 AM

I use Watco (Danish oil) quite a bit and I think the directions call for 48-72 hours minimum cure, then a light sand with 320 or higher, then apply the poly. Have you thought about using Arm-R-Seal? It is a poly/oil combo that wipes on and it finishes up great. Wax and buff after it dries.

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#7 posted 08-23-2018 12:25 PM

Teak oil or anything else should NOT be put on after the poly – it wont do anything but come off. Test the poly over acrylic paint on scrap – not sure about it and thats nice art work you dont want to mess up. If the poly is ok, you can mix the liquid part of any oil based stain with the poly (doesnt take much, use a dark color) to enhance the natural look. Other products arent needed.

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#8 posted 08-23-2018 12:40 PM

That is a nice looking staff. Well done indeed!
If the intent is ever to use it, I would certainly protect at least the handle portion with several coats of polyurethane to protect against eventual wear.

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#9 posted 08-23-2018 12:41 PM

That is a nice looking staff. Well done indeed!
If the intent is ever to use it, and as you indicated, I would certainly protect at least the handle portion with several coats of polyurethane to protect against eventual wear.

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