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Forum topic by jtrz posted 08-23-2018 01:42 AM 890 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-23-2018 01:42 AM

I found this used Eclipse EWWQR10 vise on craigslist: (

It’s obviously the same ones you get from Highland or Woodcraft which I would love to have but can’t afford so a used one that just needs a little cleaning is right up my alley. If I go check it out, is there anything that I can look for on it that might suggest it has had a little too much wear and tear? Is it possible to test the quick-release when it is not installed?

I’ve never had a quick release vise so I don’t know exactly what to check for that would let me know that it is ready to be put back into service.

As far as price, is there a certain amount that you wouldn’t go over if you were buying a used vise like this?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky


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#1 posted 08-23-2018 01:50 AM

Should be able to loosen the vise a turn or two and pull the jaws apart. Or something like that.

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#2 posted 08-23-2018 02:46 AM

I wouldn’t pay much, they aren’t very expensive new. I have a couple laying around new in the box. Maybe $35, max.

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#3 posted 08-23-2018 02:57 AM

Yeah I don’t think they have much value really. But it’s not in bad shape.

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#4 posted 08-23-2018 03:23 AM

I just looked and the price has gone up since buying mine, maybe throw a few more bucks at the guy.

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#5 posted 08-23-2018 03:59 AM

I’ve never cleaned up an old vise like this, but I have a new one. The shape makes them a little more awkward to handle than you might guess from the weight alone. I would factor that awkwardness into any estimate of the time required to clean this vise up.

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#6 posted 08-23-2018 04:36 AM


I wouldn t pay much, they aren t very expensive new. I have a couple laying around new in the box. Maybe $35, max.

- Woodknack


I just looked and the price has gone up since buying mine, maybe throw a few more bucks at the guy.

- Woodknack

With these running $170 new at highland and woodcraft, I wish I was in the market for a vise around the time you bought yours.


I ve never cleaned up an old vise like this, but I have a new one. The shape makes them a little more awkward to handle than you might guess from the weight alone. I would factor that awkwardness into any estimate of the time required to clean this vise up.

- Mr_Pink

I’ve read that the 10” one is a bit too much for some people. If I can get it for a decent price and it just needs a good scrubbing I think its a steal.

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#7 posted 08-23-2018 05:36 AM



With these running $170 new at highland and woodcraft, I wish I was in the market for a vise around the time you bought yours.
- jtrz

I checked, paid $86 for mine, a 10”, but I got a deal on it.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#8 posted 08-23-2018 06:34 PM



I ve read that the 10” one is a bit too much for some people. If I can get it for a decent price and it just needs a good scrubbing I think its a steal.

I think those reports are talking about the 10” being too much in use, which is not my experience. (I think it’s great, but the trigger can be stiff at first.) I meant that the rust removal may be more of a hassle than it seems.

That said, the condition looks better on a monitor than it did on my phone. If you can save $100 or so, it may very well be a good deal.

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#9 posted 08-23-2018 08:51 PM

Eclipse was an English maker of vices that, sadly, is no longer with us. I have an eclipse, but not that one. They made excellent vices though. That looks like it is one of their top if the line. The above comment “Should be able to loosen the vise a turn or two and pull the jaws apart. Or something like that” refers to a quick-opening feature on some top of the line wood vises in which you can rotate the vice screw counter clockwise 1/2 turn and then pull the vise open and close. Saves a lot of screwing around (pun) ;-) My method for arriving at a price for used tools and machinery is match its capability, quality, and features with a brand new equivalent. If very good, worth half the cost of the matched machine or tool. from there it goes down hill with the problems. Then add in how badly you want it. I would grab this if the price is reasonable.

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#10 posted 08-23-2018 09:28 PM


Eclipse was an English maker of vices that, sadly, is no longer with us. ...
- Planeman40

I believe you are thinking of Record. The Eclipse is a 3rd world or Asian (I can’t remember where it’s made) copy of the Record vise. Yost also makes a copy.

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#11 posted 08-23-2018 09:50 PM

My curiosity made me do some research. Eclipse was an English vise maker. I thought they had gone out of business. The truth is they were gobbled up by an English conglomerate named Spear and Jackson (http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/about-us) and are under that name. Additionally, Spear and Jackson are owned by Neill Tools Limited. For all I know, these vises may be made in China these days. Globalism, Bah!

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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#12 posted 08-23-2018 10:12 PM

So did you buy the vice?

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#13 posted 08-24-2018 01:17 AM



My curiosity made me do some research. Eclipse was an English vise maker. I thought they had gone out of business. The truth is they were gobbled up by an English conglomerate named Spear and Jackson (http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/about-us) and are under that name. Additionally, Spear and Jackson are owned by Neill Tools Limited. For all I know, these vises may be made in China these days. Globalism, Bah!

- Planeman40

According to that link, Eclipse was an original Spear Jackson trademark for hacksaw blades, it doesn’t say anything about vises. I want to say the Eclipse vises are made in Eastern Europe or India. After Record quit, there were two or three clones that popped up.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#14 posted 08-24-2018 09:01 PM

It looks like it already sold. Clicked on the link yesterday to get contact info and the post was deleted.

I was getting so excited. Thanks for the input anyways though everyone.

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#15 posted 08-25-2018 01:12 AM

I beg to differ with you. I bought an Eclipse instrument vise back in the late 1950s which I still have. A precision instrument with precision ground and hardened jaws. A file won’t scratch them! It was definitely made in England!!!

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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