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Woodchuck2010

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08-14-2018 02:36 AM

I posted up some push “shoes” in the project section. Someone just commented that about 40 yrs ago a cabinet maker gave him the idea of using an awl as a push stick. He said he’s been using it since then. He asked if it was a good or bad habit. I’m thinking not good. Less control and not safe because| of the metal. Seems like the wood could still pivot under the awl and bind between the fence and blade too. I’m thinking that if you have to ask if it’s safe, it’s probably not. What say you?

-- Chuck, Michigan,


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oldwood

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#1 posted 08-14-2018 02:54 AM

I agree on all your points.

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olegrump

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#2 posted 08-28-2018 11:48 PM

NO! NO! NO! First, there is a SHARP metal blade, spinning TOWARD the table saw user at an average speed of TEN miles per hour. (A little fact I learned several years ago) A TS blade having teeth, it is designed to EAT things. Second, there is a long, sharp, pointed object being pushed TOWARD, or INTO if you like, the spinning blade. How in Hell anyone thought this was a GOOD idea is incomprehensible. Talk about an accident WAITING to happen. Anyone following this practice almost HAS to have a cool nickname, like “Lefty”, “Stubby”, “Squint” or some such. This would only be acceptable in a cartoon, with predictable results.

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#3 posted 08-28-2018 11:57 PM



NO! NO! NO! First, there is a SHARP metal blade, spinning TOWARD the table saw user at an average speed of TEN miles per hour. (A little fact I learned several years ago) A TS blade having teeth, it is designed to EAT things. Second, there is a long, sharp, pointed object being pushed TOWARD, or INTO if you like, the spinning blade. How in Hell anyone thought this was a GOOD idea is incomprehensible. Talk about an accident WAITING to happen. Anyone following this practice almost HAS to have a cool nickname, like “Lefty”, “Stubby”, “Squint” or some such. This would only be acceptable in a cartoon, with predictable results.

- olegrump

TEN? Try 100 mph.

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#4 posted 08-29-2018 12:18 AM


THIS IS MY PUSH STICK/BLOCK i find for myself i have the best control in this style :<))
takes a super genius to use an awl or a nail LOL

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Dwain

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#5 posted 08-29-2018 12:28 AM

I agree with the OP. I think an awl would be just only slightly better than using your hands.

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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#6 posted 08-29-2018 03:27 AM

Tony, Yes … I’m going to steal your idea!

Chuck, NO! Just NO!

Hey! Just joined site and new to thinking seriously about woodworking… EVEN I KNEW THAT!!!! GEEZ!

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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000

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#7 posted 08-29-2018 03:33 AM

I like it. Good performer!
The handle keeps your hand high enough out of the way,
the foot is long which helps hold down the material good,
and the boot at the end has good length.



THIS IS MY PUSH STICK/BLOCK i find for myself i have the best control in this style :<))
takes a super genius to use an awl or a nail LOL

- GR8HUNTER

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#8 posted 08-29-2018 04:18 AM




THIS IS MY PUSH STICK/BLOCK i find for myself i have the best control in this style :<))
takes a super genius to use an awl or a nail LOL

- GR8HUNTER

I seem to have a very similar one that is my go to now :)

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#9 posted 08-29-2018 04:51 AM

My biggest concern, one I just ran into this week, is cutting a bevel on a vertical piece and holding that against my tall vertical fence.
I have yet to come with what I feel as a safe method to hold and push the work at the same time.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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Woodknack

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#10 posted 08-29-2018 05:49 AM

I like to use screwdrivers for push sticks and then drink them after work.

Just kidding, I drink them before work and use awls for push sticks.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#11 posted 08-29-2018 12:50 PM


My biggest concern, one I just ran into this week, is cutting a bevel on a vertical piece and holding that against my tall vertical fence.
I have yet to come with what I feel as a safe method to hold and push the work at the same time.

Maybe something like a tennoning jig?

And I can’t imagine pushing with anything metal. All of my push sticks have hit the blade at some point.

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Robert

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#12 posted 08-29-2018 01:07 PM

Take a look at this.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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YesHaveSome

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#13 posted 08-29-2018 02:47 PM

I dont like any device resembling a push stick. I only use my GRR-Ripper, Microjig push block, and a homemade one similar to the one posted above. I want as much surface area on the piece as possible.

-- But where does the meat go?

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#14 posted 08-29-2018 05:12 PM

We just picked up a saw stop. Now we have push sticks similar to shown above. Metal into a saw blade is metal out of a saw blade and stuck in the wood wall behind or above you if your lucky

-- FloridaCracker

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FloridaCracker

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#15 posted 08-29-2018 05:12 PM

We just picked up a saw stop. Now we have push sticks similar to shown above. Metal into a saw blade is metal out of a saw blade and stuck in the wood wall behind or above you if your lucky

-- FloridaCracker

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