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lumberlarry

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08-03-2018 02:12 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question on bench

Has anyone built a 25 inch high dining bench??
The build is not a problem, but I am concerned about it tipping over with kids playing around etc.

Any suggestions on dimensions. I have a customer waiting for the build, but am bogged down on this concern.

I see some cheap furniture stuff on line that is 24 in. high and 18 or 20 inch. wide. This is really too wide for the place it is going. —-but maybe is has to be that wide to not tip over?

thanks


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John Smith

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#1 posted 08-03-2018 02:20 AM

I was raised as a child on a bench about that tall – - –
but ~ it was against the wall so it was not possible for it to tip over backwards.
if you are contemplating a bench that tall, they could try to rearrange the kitchen
to have the bench against a wall. how long will the bench be ???
free standing, it would need a really wide footprint compared to the seat.
speaking of kids – 25” is a bit of a stretch for little ones to get on the bench.
how about making a step-bench that will not tip over backwards. (the step faces the back side).
later on in life, maybe the bench could be re-purposed into a plant stand or something.

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#2 posted 08-03-2018 05:52 AM

The thing about kids is they grow insanely fast and a 25” bench is very tall, they’ll outgrow it in a couple years. My desk is 26.5” tall. I would look for another solution.

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#3 posted 08-03-2018 01:52 PM

Just A thought, but could you add a hinged foot to each side that can be opened for use & folded back inside when not in use? This would prevent tipping the bench.

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lumberlarry

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#4 posted 08-03-2018 03:52 PM

I am new to this post, so hope I am doing it correctly.
There have been several replies to my “dining bench” question.
To be clear this is a dining table sitting bench 6 ft. long.
But the table is 36 inch high as it serves as a work island also.

The bench needs to be pushed under the table when not in use.
So as I began the process of design, I realized that in needed to be about 25 in. tall, and it would be a tip over hazard. Hinged feet, castors and sandbags are not an option.

I am now of the opinion to suggest to the customer that they use separate stools for safety rather than a bench.
Anything wider than 16 inches would protrude from the table too far so it would not function as a work island to stand in front of.

Your efforts are appreciated, this forum is quite good.
thanks everyone
any other new ideas not suggested here already would be appreciated—
Larry

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#5 posted 08-03-2018 05:23 PM

Perhaps a better, more elegant solution would be a Tripp+Trapp chair that “grows” with the child.
Some members have built that chair and may have plans available.
If your customer is open to this suggestion as I believe it is much safer and easier to move.

Just a thought.

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#6 posted 08-03-2018 07:13 PM

Here is a chair I have made (20 times) and it works great as the kids grow. The seat is easy to adjust up or down. Kids have used it from age 2 to 14. I think it will set far enough under the counter to be out of the way. The plans for it are in my projects or you can private message me for a copy of them.

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#7 posted 08-03-2018 08:43 PM

We have a countertop height table, and we bought extra chairs with it to use at a countertop island in our kitchen, these have backs. We also have some simple stools. We had our daughter flip over sideways one of the chairs when she was about 1 year old, but she was tied down in a booster and wasn’t hurt, mostly just scared. I can attest to the tippiness.

So I think a long bench being tippy is a valid concern. I think you’d need to splay the legs out in order to alleviate this. If you did this, it might stick a bit out further than 16” especially near the bottom.

But benches are hard enough to get out from the middle of when they’re lower to the floor. Since these are up so high, you couldn’t just step over it, you’d have to scoot down to the end to get off. So functionally, I think stools would be better all around.

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lumberlarry

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#8 posted 08-03-2018 09:59 PM

reply to answers in this post: LesB, that is a beautiful child’s chair, I will look up the plans for my grandchildren. (but this is not the answer to the bench problem)

to MinnesotaSteve, your answer is spot on. Getting out of the middle of a high bench is impossible without everyone moving. As people stand up hitting the bench with the backs of their legs it would tip back. I am going to recommend the customer get stools, and or barstools with backs. A 20 inch wide 72 inch long walnut bench would be so heavy it would be very hard to move in and out, as well as dangerous.

thanks everyone

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000

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#9 posted 08-03-2018 10:11 PM

My friend has seats that swing in and out. The mechanism mounts to the cabinet back and can be put at whatever height you want. Here are some examples that may give you some ideas.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=swing+out+bar+stool+seat&qpvt=swing+out+bar+stool+seat&FORM=IGRE

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