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Forum topic by Andybb posted 07-27-2018 11:37 PM 1046 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Andybb

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07-27-2018 11:37 PM

I was lucky enough to run across a guy who was giving away all of his Rockler hoses, blast gates and fittings for a 4” dust collector. I have always used adapters to get everything to work with my 2 1/2” shop vac for my TS, jointer, planer and bandsaw which are all 4” so I figured this was a good upgrade. But….I can’t figure out how and what adapters go with the handle that looks like it should just go on the outputs of the tools. I’ve got all sorts of elbows and t’s and y’s and gates but nothing seems to want to work together.

-- Andy - Seattle USA


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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 07-27-2018 11:50 PM

its never tonys day :<(((((
i am glad for you Andy :<))))

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#2 posted 07-28-2018 12:02 AM

The Dust Right system has a specific size that works with their dust ports. You may need to get specific adapters to go from Dust Right size to whatever tool you need to connect to. I don’t understand why they decided to have a custom size on this, but there’s no real standard in the industry, so that probably contributed to it. It’s a good system though, regardless.

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#3 posted 07-28-2018 12:15 AM

As we all sadly know, every manufacturer of Dust Collection parts seems to make them NOT fit everyone else’s. We always have to cobble parts together to get them to work.

What you have acquired is Rockler’s Dust Right fittings. The 2 pieces you show in the picture work together. The piece that is two different sizes mounts on the dust port on your stationary tools with the band clamp. It has the flexibility to fit “4 inch” ports on many different brand tools. The other part with the handle fits on the exposed end of the first part, and you clamp the dust hose on the end with the elbow.

The nice thing about the Dust Right system is they make a lot of adapters that work together, they make the same style adapter that will clamp on 2 1/4 or 2 1/2 inch ports on one side, and fit the Dust Right handle on the other side.

Just search Rockler.com for “Dust Right”

-- I love the smell of coffee in the morning, and sawdust in the afternoon

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Andybb

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#4 posted 07-28-2018 12:49 AM

Thanks. I’ve got a ton of miscellaneous parts so I just need to play with it I guess. Don’t know why I assumed that 4” was a universal size. The adapters I made and have been using from 4” id PVC all fit on the various tools. Might be just as easy to keep using that.

Don’t know why this was giving me a headache. It was like an erector set with no instructions. It was late and I was tired. I threw them all back in the box and went to bed.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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WoodES

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#5 posted 07-28-2018 05:28 AM

I have used those my system , but can’t confirm the details until next week. I believe 4” solid drain pipe and fittings can be used. I have also used 4” DWV (black pipe) to make up connections. There is always the fernco solution.

This is the blue box version.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hancor-4-in-x-10-ft-Corrugated-Solid-Pipe/3523674

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#6 posted 07-28-2018 11:14 AM

Like simplicity of Rockler Dust Right handle for changing between tools in my small shop. Wish adapters cost less.
Dust right handle is designed to slip on a 3-15/16 to 4.0 inch OD fitting. It has an ID taper that allows for the range to seal.

Hate the lack of details on actual ID/OD of ‘supposed’ 4 inch dust collection parts.
Problem I found is that many 4 inch fittings available in market are actually designed to fit inside 4 inch heavy duty hose, which means they have a 3-7/8 inch OD. Dust Right handle does not seal well on this smaller OD.

Making things worse:
- Both straight and taper ends exist on commercial 4 inch fittings (with various 3-7/8 to 4 inch OD being sold) and no one shares real dimensions. Never know what actual size of tool port or fitting, until you measure it.
- 4 inch schedule 40 PVC pipe has OD of 4.5 inches
- 4 inch SDR PVC pipe is either 4.130 or 4.2 OD depending on schedule

IMHO – standard 4 inch dust collection setup can be a total PITA…..

Best Luck.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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CARSandCustoms

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#7 posted 07-28-2018 04:17 PM

I’m just getting started in working with wood and have noticed many, many posts, articles, and videos about the confusion around dust collection.
One question. Why has no one started a thread that would eventually become a sticky stating various company’s ID/OD specs?
With all the knowledge here on LJ’s I bet a list could be compiled in less than a week.
Having it in an organized list would take longer to do, but could be done.

Just a thought.

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Andybb

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#8 posted 07-28-2018 04:17 PM

IMHO – standard 4 inch dust collection setup can be a total PITA…..

- CaptainKlutz

Learn something new every day. Everything says 4” dust collector but none of them seem to actually be 4”. I just assumed that “4 inch” Rockler handle would fit on my 4” tool dust ports. Silly me. :-) I may just stick with what I have been using since it all still just eventually goes into my 2 1/2” shop vac hose and my handy 4” id PVC adapter fits snuggly on all of my 4” tool ports. I really don’t need a bunch of 4” hose cluttering my already space challenged garage/shop. Moving that Rockler handle from tool to tool is really no different than moving the PVC adapter without the clutter of a bunch of 4” hose. The only thing that clogs the hose is aggressive passes on the planer.

Oh well. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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oldnovice

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#9 posted 07-28-2018 10:23 PM

I have to agree with CaptainKlutz, the size variations form manufacturers really “suck” no pun intended!

At one time there was a woodworkers store downtown San Jose that had more fittings than you could count but they moved far away so it has become more difficult to find matching sizes.

You would think that some entrepreneur would figure this out and design an adjustable size fitting!

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WoodES

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#10 posted 08-01-2018 03:47 AM

Attached are the pictures for the 4” Dust Right using the 4” triple wall pipe. The pipe fits many 4” female dust fittings and you can use the associated PVC fittings too. I screw the pipe to the Dust Right and add a piece of friction tape to the other end to help hold the hose onto the Dust Right.

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Andybb

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#11 posted 08-02-2018 03:55 PM


Attached are the pictures for the 4” Dust Right using the 4” triple wall pipe. The pipe fits many 4” female dust fittings and you can use the associated PVC fittings too. I screw the pipe to the Dust Right and add a piece of friction tape to the other end to help hold the hose onto the Dust Right.
- WoodES

Thanks. I’ll give that a try.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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