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Gerald Thompson

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07-24-2018 11:52 PM

Any thoughts about water seal for newly constructed wood patios? The only prevalent one I see is Thompson’s.

-- Jerry


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Fresch

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#1 posted 07-25-2018 12:59 AM

Google, I believe you let it weather for a year then protect it.
I used BLO/terps 10/1 on my deck (pt) at my camp 2yrs. Will probably do it this year; it turns the wood dark.
I’ve used Thompson before and wasn’t impressed, lasted a yr.

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#2 posted 07-25-2018 03:01 AM

Thompson’s is garbage. It’s consistently the lowest performing deck treatment.

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#3 posted 07-25-2018 03:35 AM

I have always used Wolman WoodLife. Then coat a few days later with a quality deck stain. WoodLife has not UV protection.

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#4 posted 07-25-2018 03:49 AM

I agree it’s garbage it’s main ingredient is mineral oil or some modified version.It does nothing but attract dirt and darken the wood.

-- Aj

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#5 posted 07-25-2018 06:11 AM

I second Woodlife

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#6 posted 07-25-2018 12:18 PM

Jerry – what type of wood did you use for your patio ?

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-- I am a painter. That's what I do. I paint things --

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#7 posted 07-25-2018 12:27 PM

It is not for me but co-worker of my son’s. I’ll see if I can and get back to you.
Thanks.

-- Jerry

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#8 posted 07-25-2018 12:43 PM

John- It’s pressure treated pine, BORG. He has yet to put it down and will be exposed to N. Fl weather but not the ocean.

-- Jerry

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#9 posted 07-25-2018 12:56 PM

Thompson’s is basically mineral spirits and paraffin – you could probably make it yourself for a lot less.

I put PT 5/4×6 deck boards on a utility trailer. Let it weather and then I brush used motor oil on it whenever I have it. It’s not dark or dirty looking at all, and it’s not slippery. May be a thought.

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John Smith

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#10 posted 07-25-2018 02:45 PM

oooooo I have heard of people treating wood fences and fence posts with motor oil.
that is not something I would like to walk on barefoot – or have toddlers walking
on it at all. . . . . sort of like visiting a junkyard garage barefoot.

pressure treated lumber behaves differently in all aspects . . . depending on the wood,
the chemicals, the manufacturer, the climate in which it is used, the technique of how
it is installed, yada yada yada.
soft Southern Yellow Pine will crack and flake over time – that is just its nature.
a water-resistant coating will slow down this process, but not stop it entirely.
1. ~ install the boards using the best hardware available.
2. ~ let it acclimate at least six months.
3. ~ apply the finish treatment of your choice on a clear cool day, starting in the early morning.
and follow up coatings every 2-3 years or when needed.

jus my Dos Centavos

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-- I am a painter. That's what I do. I paint things --

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#11 posted 07-25-2018 03:01 PM

THIS :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#12 posted 07-25-2018 03:12 PM

Since the deck is in North Florida, the biggest issue is direct sun on the yellow pine. After about 5 years of sealing my Georgia deck every year, I finally relented and painted the damn thing! It is now about 23 years old and still looks good. I have had to repaint it about three times. I use a high quality outdoor opaque stain from Benjamin Moore.

I have used Thompson’s before and agree that it is junk. You might as well just spray water on your deck and it will work just as well.

That’s my cinco centavos. (inflation John.)

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead

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jonah

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#13 posted 07-25-2018 03:17 PM

I’d vote to either paint it or use the most opaque stain you can possibly find. The sun will absolutely wreck the deck unless you re-treat it every 6-12 months.

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#14 posted 07-25-2018 06:05 PM

There are many brands of deck stain and or sealer. The best I have found is Behr, carried by Home Depot, and even it comes in several grades or forms. Thompson’s is useless; you might as well urinate on the wood as use that.
NONE of them last more than 3 years in sun or rain. Then it requires stripping, bleaching and resealing.
An inexpensive option is linseed oil diluted with paint thinner (about 50%) but is has no UV protection and will need to be reapplied every year.

If the guy hasn’t put the deck down yet I would advise him to make sure he counter sinks the screws or nails so he can resurface the wood with the commercial deck sanders when the time comes. I wish I had done that on my deck. Or use the hidden fasteners of which there are several to choose from.

He can also start out with a stain/sealer and when he can no longer keep it looking good with that he can either sand it down or switch to the paint mentioned above. That is what I did on my deck.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#15 posted 07-25-2018 06:15 PM

Penofin makes a wood protector specifically for pressure treated lumber. Penofin has great UV resistance. No natural looking finish (something that isn’t a coat like paint or varnish), is going to hold up for years at a time exposed to the elements. Best to expect to refinish every year and not let things get out of hand where you have to do a major sanding etc.

http://www.penofin.com/wood-stains/pressure-treated-wood-stain

FYI, if this hasn’t been built yet, much easier to finish the boards on all sides before construction. The parts that you can’t easily get at for future refinishing, probably won’t need it anyway.

-- Clin

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