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07-04-2018 01:58 PM

Ok lets try this again. I added a post yesterday re: a King bed I’m making. The attached drawing was crappy at best as was my description, so I thought I’d try it again. After a fair bit of research I’e decided to use through bolts and faux tenons to secure the rails to the head board/foot board. I find I’m second guessing my self with the actual installation. So the question is should i use 1 3/8 X 51/2 bolt in the centre or 2 5/16 X 51/2” bolt. Should I make the tenon (3/4” long) as wide as possible or would a 31/2 wide tenon serve the purpose. My thanks to John for his earlier input.
Thanks

-- Mark


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#1 posted 07-04-2018 11:16 PM

Mark, I would use a single bolt with a dowel pin above and below it. FWIW

-- Art

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#2 posted 07-04-2018 11:45 PM

Mark, I agree with Art on the single bolt. If you want a tenon instead of dowels, size is not critical as it’s primary function is maintaining alignment of the side rail.

-- Mike - Waukesha, WI

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#3 posted 07-05-2018 12:01 PM

Go single bed bolt and use a tenon. It does not need to be a long tenon. Just enough that the weight is on the post. I used the method of Charles Neil. Mine was a California King, and It’s been in use for 4.5 years now no issues.

The tenon is easy to make with a router and a jig. His method of drilling a good strait hole for the bed bolts is easy and foolproof. I also took his advice on the laminated bed rail, and with a king, and his methods, you get zero rail twist.

Go to his website dvd section and its worth the money.

Here is some pic’s of the bed finished. BTW his design eliminates any center matrise support that I really liked, and the I-beam slat style matrise supports have held good for 4.5 years, and I’m a big guy.

Cheers

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#4 posted 07-05-2018 12:04 PM

As I just added to your other post, I’d probably go with barrel nuts and furniture bolts… Two of them…

-- Brian Famous :: Charlotte, NC :: http://www.FamousArtisan.com

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#5 posted 07-05-2018 12:17 PM

I am right in the middle of my king bed frame project as well… I hope I am not making a big mistake but these are my plans:

Use two dominoes (10×50, no glue) and two bolts (“zip bolts”, into threaded inserts in the legs) in each joint. The stretchers are roughly 3/4” x 7” with a 3/4”x 2” glued and screwed to the stretcher to act as a ledger for the slats. I plan to also do a center stretcher with two adjustable feet to support some weight.

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#6 posted 07-05-2018 03:19 PM

Thanks for all the response gents. Ill post some pics when (if ever) this thing is complete.

-- Mark

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#7 posted 07-06-2018 04:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=mJC0Mz1B6aM

40 years of building hundreds of beds , this has never failed me

its been around for hundreds of years …

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#8 posted 07-06-2018 04:27 PM

Charles,

I can’t watch that video without logging in to something.

-Paul

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#9 posted 07-06-2018 04:41 PM

Paul,
Try this. The link Charles posted has the ‘edit’ tag embedded, which is typically for those who post videos and want or need to make edits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJC0Mz1B6aM

-- Luck, the point where preparation meets opportunity.

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#10 posted 07-06-2018 04:59 PM

Thanks. That works.

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#11 posted 07-07-2018 03:48 PM

Thanks Sandeln

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#12 posted 07-07-2018 09:05 PM

I don’t understand why he plugs the hole with bondo. If it is to hide the hole, it can be located inside the frame; not facing out.

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#13 posted 07-07-2018 10:14 PM

The hole would be on the hidden side.
I believe the bondo serves two purposes, to capture the nut so it never gets lost, and maintains the alignment for ease of assembly.

-- Luck, the point where preparation meets opportunity.

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#14 posted 07-08-2018 09:28 PM

This is how I would do it.

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