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Forum topic by Josuff posted 06-26-2018 09:05 PM 428 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Josuff

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06-26-2018 09:05 PM

Topic tags/keywords: newbie drying dry finish finishing question

First off I apologize for the rambling questions, but I’m a Newbie here and just want to make sure i end my first project correctly, rather than to just assume it will be fine.

To give you an idea of what i’m working with, I just finished my very first project, an oven pull, out of green wood, from a red maple tree, probably came off the tree about 3 weeks ago. It’s about an inch thick, and about a foot long.

1st Question: Does it really significantly improve the finished product if I soak it in water, and sand it one last time after soaking?

2nd question: How long would it take to dry it out sufficiently if i soak it, and how long if i don’t soak it. (Drying in a box i made, from a cardboard box with a small computer fan and 40 watt bulb for a little warmth.)

3rd, and possibly stupidest question: Am i correct to figure that drying it out will greatly increase the absorption of the oil i finish it with?

Again sorry for the multiple questions, i would REALLY appreciate advice on them.


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 06-26-2018 09:23 PM

It will be fine. Why soak it in water? Completely unnecessary. Yes it will take more finish if it is dry, but not a lot more. I’d just start using it and then if it needs some oil later put it on. No need for a homemade kiln. It will dry on its own.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#2 posted 06-26-2018 09:49 PM

Thanks! i just read a little about “Water Popping” finished products…it seemed that most people suggested that SOMETIMES it is appropriate to wet and then do one last sanding, but no posts were very clear on exactly when it is called for to do so.

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#3 posted 06-26-2018 10:01 PM

Don’t put finish on it until it is dried out. I’m not sure what an “oven pull” is, unless it’s a door pull handle on an oven door. If so, you don’t want wet wood mounted to an oven door – it will split the 1st time the oven heats up. Put it in a paper grocery bag with some chips, weigh the whole thing, and put in somewhere in you house with ac with some airmovement. Check the weight weekly, when it stops dropping, finish turn, sand, apply finish.

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#4 posted 06-26-2018 10:04 PM

its a utensil about the size of a long wooden spoon, but instead of a bowl on the end, there’s a hook on the end, used to pull the oven rack out and push it in…and THANK you!

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msinc

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#5 posted 06-26-2018 11:43 PM

The process of wetting wood and sanding when it dries is what some people call “raising the grain”. There are those who swear by it and severely argue the point. Others say it accomplishes nothing and is a complete waste of time. I am one of those guys that will try anything on the chance it might just work.
I have seen it done by the folks that swear by it and I have tried it several times. but I honestly can say that it did nothing for me that I could tell. It is supposed to “raise” areas that need sanded more and supposedly make it easier to sand out marks or scratches in the wood.
One thing it does do and I think this is where the term “raising the grain” comes from…if you have, for example, a walnut piece you are sanding and it is all nice and sanded smooth ready for finishing and you wet it when it dries you will notice little fuzzy areas. Now, at this point you are supposed to sand these fuzzy spots smooth and wet it again. You are supposed to do this until no more fuzzy spots raise up and the piece stays smooth. That is your “go ahead” to apply the finish.
It sounds good and you definitely see a result…fuzzy spots coming up and eventually they stop. Where it all turns to liquid goose squirt is when you get ready to “raise the grain”, but instead just apply the finish and move on with life…..only to note no difference at all in the end result, zero.
Best thing I can tell you is don’t waste your time. But, don’t worry…if you are already sold on this concept some one will be along any minute to tell you just how important and what a great thing it is to raise the grain. Best of luck.

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Josuff

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#6 posted 06-27-2018 12:38 AM

Yeah I can see both sides I guess.

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#7 posted 06-27-2018 02:27 AM

Also if you are wetting the wood to raise the grain you want to get the surface a little wet. The process does not call for soaking the wood. I would not wet the surface more than once. The sanding to remove the fuzz should be very light sanding. You only want to remove the fuzz, not cut the wood.

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#8 posted 06-27-2018 12:23 PM

Raising the grain – this is done when water based coloring (stain, dye), or wb finish is used. Not necessary if oil based products are used. If the surface is sealed, ob stain, shellac, etc, a wb finish is applied without raising the grain. Depends on the final desired finish whether it is necessary. A thick film finish probably not, “in the wood” hand rubbed look definitely.

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#9 posted 06-27-2018 02:52 PM

Since you started with green wood, I’d use it for a couple of months before considering a final finish. My go to for anything in the kitchen is mineral oil. Fully in the wood , non-drying, and food safe finish. If a piece begins to look dry, a quick wipe with fresh oil and it looks as good as new.
As has been mentioned before, you don’t need to soak the wood to raise the grain, a wipe down with a wet rag should be more than adequate if you choose to go that way.

-- Sawdust Maker

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