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backup2one

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06-15-2018 02:50 PM

I am getting ready to do some trim on my house. I need help choosing a nail gun. I don’t have an aircompresser at the moment so I was thinking of those kind that have a battery. Can anybody tell me what is best for this?


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#1 posted 06-15-2018 03:00 PM

avoid the Black n Decker Firestorm – my coworker had a new one
on a job site and he returned it twice in one day – not a very productive day.
other than that, I have no suggestions on brand names.
(I do reside at the Porter Cable camp for electric hand tools).

an afterthought: do you anticipate a future use for pneumatic tools ??
this may be the time to pick up a used pancake compressor at the pawn shop
and start collecting pneumatic hand tools. you may even find a decent trim nailer
at the pawn shop too while you are there.

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#2 posted 06-15-2018 03:05 PM

I had an electric trim nailer. By a well respected brand, Arrow. It stank.

There is no good comparison between an electric nailer and a pneumatic one. It’s the difference between a small battery operated circular saw, and a cabinet saw. Electrics fairly often fail to fully drive and set the nails, especially in harder materials like walnut, or maple. They may be fine for cedar, balsa stuff like that, but anything worth working with not so much…

If you don’t want to own one, I HIGHLY recommend renting a compressor, hose and nailer. You will want one after that…

Pawn shop buys, and Harbor Freight are great sources for pneumatic tools. As long as you steer away from the “oil free” compressors, Harbor Freight’s stuff has a pretty good reputation for durability under hobbyist, or even light / medium professional use. If you are doing big production work I’d probably climb the price scale, but you aren’t…

I have the older version of THIS COMPRESSOR and THIS COMPRESSOR

The 16 gauge finish nailer works great for trim work. Been using mine now, and mind you mine is the much older orange model, for going on 12 years now with no problems…

The nailer / stapler combo unit I have as well, and honestly, lots of folks have them and love them, I am not a fan. Tends to leave dimples the size / shape of a staple. Pretty good if you are stapling in a non cosmetic area, but aside from that, useless by my count…

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#3 posted 06-15-2018 03:06 PM

I have a Ryobi 18 Volt brad nailer, and for the price (paid $100 CAN.) I have been very happy with it. Finished my basement and use it in the shop to tack/hold thing together. I do have a lot of other Ryobi tools so this is a factor.
Decide if it is for hobby use or or commercial use? I also have started to pick up some Ridgid 18 Volt stuff as sometimes the Ryobi is in short supply in this area and having purchased a couple of Ridgid routers as replacements
have been very happy with their performance! Buy what you need and can afford?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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backup2one

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#4 posted 06-15-2018 04:26 PM

I’m not sure how many times I will be using this. I guess I will look into a pancake compressor kit that has some guns with it.
Thanks for the advise.

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#5 posted 06-15-2018 04:34 PM

All-Electric nailers just don’t compare that well with pneumatic still. They’ve gotten a LOT better, but they still only work well as trim nailers (like up to 16 ga.) Siding and framing nailers have a ways to go. One option is to get a gas/electric nailer. They have gas cartridges that are fired with a battery. They cost a lot, and have two things to worry about. The biggest complaint about battery powered nailers is that they don’t set the nails consistently deep. Second biggest is clunkiness and heaviness. Air nailers are lighter and more compact usually.

I think your best bet is to get an economical air compressor and a air nailer. It doesn’t take a very large air compressor to run a nailer. Especially if you’re not running a roofing nailer or something you’ll be cycling a lot of times in a minute…

-- Pete

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#6 posted 06-15-2018 05:00 PM

Having used Dewalt’s battery operated nail gun and electric staplers my opinion is they are great for small on site repairs. Not good for much else.

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#7 posted 06-15-2018 05:16 PM

If you have to also buy a compressor to use an air nailer why not look at the Paslode butane operated ones. They are very good quality, work well but are a little pricey. Still less than a nailer, hose, fittings and a compressor. Whatever one you get make sure it is the angled type. Makes it a little easier to get into some spots to nail.

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#8 posted 06-15-2018 05:22 PM

I have not used a pneumatic nailer but I just bought the Ryobi Airstrike 18 gauge nailer and I really like it. I find I use it a lot more than I ever thought I would.
This video helped me decide which nailer to buy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Aqq_PhZX0M
Its great for tacking pieces together while glue sets up and for pin nailing cradled supports/canvases for my art projects. I just batched out over 32 cradled birch plywood supports in less than three hours.
jon

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#9 posted 06-15-2018 05:42 PM

I have a Rigid 18 gauge brad nailer plus a Porter Cable pin nailer. Both have worked flawlessly. I had a Porter Cable pancake compressor, but decided to sell it and get a small Senco compressor — much quieter and lighter than the Porter Cable.

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#10 posted 06-15-2018 06:18 PM

If you do a lot of DIY projects I also recommend a small compressor. Pneumatic nailers are cheaper and better in many regards. Compressors have a loads of things that can run off them, even the small ones. Even a simple blow nozzle can be very helpful and versatile.

For about $20 you can get a cheap accessory kit with a coil hose, tire inflator, blow nozzle, and handful of fittings.

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bigblockyeti

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#11 posted 06-15-2018 06:24 PM

What kind of trim are you planning on installing? That will help answer the question. There’s 23 gauge headless pins, 18ga slight and full head head brad nails, 16ga straight collated finish nails and 15ga angle collated finish nails. From the 23ga pins to the 15ga finish nails you get progressively more holding strength and longer available fasteners. The cordless stuff has come a long ways but still leaves a lot to be desired when compared to pneumatic nailers from cost, performance and longevity standpoints.

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clin

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#12 posted 06-15-2018 09:05 PM

I really like my Bostitch 18 gauge brad and 16 gauge finish nailers. 18 gauge is good for base boards and other trim. 16 gauge can work for that too, but is a little overkill.

18 gauge is handy for other woodworking jobs. Like tacking together cabinets cases or jigs.

It doens’t take a lot of air for these nailers, so you don’t need a large compressor. But still compare nailer requirements to what the compressor is rated for.

I think pneumatic nailers are one of those tools that you don’t realize how much you “need” one until you have one.

-- Clin

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AxkMan

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#13 posted 06-16-2018 01:41 AM

Bostitch sells a package for an air compressor and 3 guns for $200.

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#14 posted 06-16-2018 02:38 AM

Paslode works well for me, it has a battery and a fuel cell.

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#15 posted 06-16-2018 04:28 AM

I have been using the M18 Milwaukee 15ga. It is instantaneous, easy depth adjustment, drives a 2 1/5” nail in easily, the battery seems to last forever on a charge. Not having a hose attached is great! Only slight downside is it is a bit heavy.

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