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Forum topic by Bumpy posted 05-17-2018 11:14 AM 905 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-17-2018 11:14 AM

I am considering updating the DC system in my shop. I have narrowed my search down to 2 systems. I was hoping to get some opinions on the following-

Clearview- CV1800 as compared to the Grizzley G0441. Advertised stats are about the same, the big difference is the Clearview is 5hp and the Grizzley is 3hp.


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#1 posted 05-17-2018 11:46 AM

Clear view is $500 more, but, available and made in USA.
Grizzly, Backordered from china…

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#2 posted 05-17-2018 12:44 PM

When looking at the CV make certain to include remote control box, mounting bracket, and a dust bin. It is an excellent DC but just look at the total price.

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#3 posted 05-17-2018 02:47 PM

Be sure to read the assembly instructions on the Clearvue machines too. They take a lot more assembly than other brands. Also, take a look at actual measured results of the dust collection using a particle counter from published reviews. Apparently, the extra horsepower doesn’t do that much good.

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#4 posted 05-17-2018 02:48 PM

I just installed a CV1800, and what redoak said is true. But I had the remote unit from my now-displaced Oneida to use. I built my wall bracket from some steel I had on hand and also used a dust bin that I had fabricated for my Oneida. But those costs do need to be considered. But I don’t think the biggest difference is price….it’s the noise. My CV (I have te 16” impeller) registers 92 dB when it’s running and a gate is open. If your shop is in the basement or an attached garage that may be a problem. BTW, should you opt for the CV, building your own remote with an Amazon contactor and other stuff will run about $30 (+/-)

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#5 posted 05-17-2018 03:40 PM

I don’t think HP matters as much as size and design of the impeller. I have a 2 hp Tempest cyclone, and it tested virtually identical to the 3hp model.

I ruled the CV out pretty quickly based on its design and use of MDF construction. I wanted no part of that.
A friend of mine has the Grizzly, it could be the GO440 but I think it’s the GO441, and it’s a really nice unit. The only thing I’d do different is use a 55 gallon fiber drum instead of a smaller metal drum. Even a 55 gallon drum fills up pretty fast, and the fiber drums are lighter to tip into a wheelbarrow. I don’t use bag liners anymore, so I just tip the bin into a wheelbarrow and take it out to the compost pile.

Another thing I recommend right from the start is automatic blast gates. Even if you only get 2-3 gates… they are amazing. iVac and Grngate make wonderful products, and I have tried them both. Flip on your tool to use it, and flip the tool off when you’re done. That’s it. Dust collection is automatic.

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#6 posted 05-17-2018 04:21 PM

Horsepower must make some kind of difference, or:

1) The big boys (factories) wouldn’t be using huge motors to run their much larger cyclones.

2) I would get rid of my two 3 horse units and my one 2 horse unit and go back to the little 1 horse Delta I gave my buddy.

Keep in mind the run cycle of your collectors. If you are going to be turning them off and on many times a day, it can be hard on some systems. That seems to, especially, apply to 3 horse and up units.

All that aside, do both units call for the same size piping? If one calls for more air at the same flow rate as the smaller one, you may need more umph to move it.

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#7 posted 05-19-2018 02:02 AM


The filtering is another difference between the Grizzly and the CV1800. The Grizzly offers 113 sf of filter area and the CV1800 offers 300 sf of filter area.

The CV Bundle does not include a dust collection barrel whereas the Grizzly includes a steel drum.

The CV1800 is loud and some noise abatement measures are needed if noise is a problem. The Grizzly is also loud, but is probably quieter than CV1800.

It may also be worthwhile to compare the fan performance curves of the two machines. At static pressure of 10”, the CV1800 seems to have the edge; CV1800 about 1200 cfm at 10” and the Grizzly about 1000 cfm at 10”. I found the Grizzly fan performance curve on page 33 of their manual (on-line). The CV fan performance curves, accompanied by some discussion including from Bill Pentz, is found in a link embedded in post #1 at

For what it is worth, I have the CV1800 and am happy with the machine.

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#8 posted 05-19-2018 11:51 AM

The power output of the motor only matters inasmuch as the machine has sufficient power to turn the impeller at the proper speed. The amount of air the thing actually sucks is all about the impeller size, design, and speed.

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#9 posted 05-19-2018 01:31 PM

Agree with all of the prior comments. I have the CV 1800 for around three years and while I was not excited about having to deal with MDF for some of the parts, the unit has performed great and I’m happy with my purchase. I have it installed in a seperate room to help with sound isolation. Remember to figure in a RA boot, especially if your space is conditioned.

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