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04-26-2018 01:06 PM

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Hey guys, some of you have made some great looking tables for you Big Green Eggs. I have a Primo XL (Oval) Kamado grill that I’m wanting to build a table for.

I’m looking at buying some Cypress for the build and it is all 4/4 lumber. I would like to use thinner t T&G slats for the siding and doors, but I don’t have the ability to resaw the 4/4 into 1/4.

Any ideas of another option? I’d hate to use 4/4 stuff all the way around for the siding and doors since Cypress is not cheap. I’ve not located any 1/4” Cypress here locally in Fort Worth, TX.

Is a T&G the best way to go for an outdoor application or is there another easier way to go? Biscuits? I’d have to buy the biscuit jointer.
Thanks for the inputs and help.
-JP


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#1 posted 04-26-2018 03:06 PM

I think 1/4 is too thin. Thicker pieces will hold their shape esp outdoors. You don’t want it to warp and look like crap around your badass barbecue.
I have vision grill and love it!

-- Aj

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#2 posted 04-26-2018 05:39 PM

Point taken Aj2. I’ll use 1/2” then for the side panels and doors. I’m wondering for the side panels, what is the best way to install or mount. Do I slot the frame edges and slide the thin side panels into place? Or maybe just build the panels and then screw them on to the plane?

Anyway thanks for the advice. I’ll follow that direction.
-JP

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#3 posted 04-26-2018 05:51 PM

I have some beautiful 5/4 river recovered cypress waiting on me to turn it into a green egg table. I could put you in touch with a guy who can sell you some and I can ship it to you, shipping would probably be $150-200. Send me a message if interested
Kiln dried 5/4 was $6.50/bdft last time I bought some and none of it was narrower than about 8”

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#4 posted 04-26-2018 06:10 PM

Anything thinner than 3/4 is going to move on you due to moisture changes. I used nominal 3/4 pine from a shipping crate on this table.

Haven’t had any problems with movement.

-- Sawdust makes me whole --Mike in STL

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#5 posted 04-27-2018 11:20 AM



I have some beautiful 5/4 river recovered cypress waiting on me to turn it into a green egg table. I could put you in touch with a guy who can sell you some and I can ship it to you, shipping would probably be $150-200. Send me a message if interested
Kiln dried 5/4 was $6.50/bdft last time I bought some and none of it was narrower than about 8”

- GrantA

Thanks GrantA for the offer. That sounds like it would be beautiful. How many BF to you plan on using?

I can get 4/4 Cypress here in Fort Worth, TX for 3.68 bf and 4.52 bf for 8/4, but it won’t have the character that yours has. I can’t swing $6.50.

Heck I was contemplating laminting the 4/4 to get 4×4 post on the corners versus laminating two 8/4 pieces.

I’m guessing 100 BF for a 6 foot table and 4×4 corner post?
Are you going to be using Cyrpress throughout the entire frame or use some cheaper stuff on the interal unseen framing?
Thanks,
JP

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#6 posted 04-27-2018 11:23 AM

Mike,
nice set up. I like the cooler and the stove installs. I was contemplating a small cooler not just for beer but also to wrap up smoked meat and throw it in there to let it rest for an hour before cutting.
-JP

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#7 posted 04-27-2018 12:58 PM

I too have a Primo xl are you going to the Primo forum there is a thread or two about tables with pictures.
I use a Nano-Q controller so don’t forget to leave room for a controller, I use he steel cradle, but did build a shack around it.

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#8 posted 04-27-2018 05:00 PM

Fresch,
I’ll go check the Primo forum out. I haven’t seen the Nano-Q controller. I’m glad you mentioned to leave some room.

I will also go check out the Nano-Q. I’ve only seen the Flame Boss and one other brand whose name escapes. Those things will cost more than the Cypress I plan on buying. LOL!
I do need to get one. I wear the hinges out on the backdoor going in and out as a I watch my temperature readout in the house.

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#9 posted 04-27-2018 07:16 PM

JP, they don’t make the nano anymore (Barbq guru). Make sure you have the band tight on the top and bottom, if it’s new I think Primo has added retaining clips (originally invented by one of the members). I use my controller all the time, no wifi on it but I have 2 other Komodos I just run, once you get used to running them really don’t need a controller; unless going low-n-slow 12-14hrs. Get a Thermopen and don’t open grill unless you need to, it drys out the meat.

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#10 posted 04-29-2018 02:22 AM

OK thanks Fresch.
I use a Maverick monitor for grill and meat temps. I mainly use it for low and slow cooks only. It is these scenarios that a controller would be great.
BBQ guru and Flame Boss are the only 2 companies I know of.

Is there concern about the wood top that is close to the Kamado itself? Those things put off some heat.
-JP

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#11 posted 04-29-2018 02:30 AM

Looking at the spec sheet it looks to weigh 200# I would also think 1/4” stock way to light to support that. I would go 3/4” or stay home, and not have any spans near the grill where I didn’t have crossing support at least every 12”

That said things I build hardly ever fall apart :-)

-- Think safe, be safe

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#12 posted 04-29-2018 10:50 AM

JP- yes I figured I’d need right at 100bdft but I think I’m actually going to use a steel (1.5 or 2” square tube) frame with the cypress top and cypress panels so that when done the steel will effectively look like a face frame with overlay doors. We’ll see what I end up doing. My temporary stand I threw together 4 or 5 years ago when I got the egg is still holding, it’s not aging gracefully though! My wife surprised me with the egg on my birthday so I had to get it in a stand and cook right away, used some 2×4 for a frame and rough 1×6 cedar I had on hand. It looks pretty pitiful right now though.
I reckon I should head to my shop for a few and work on my daughters desk so I can try to start the grill table build again! :-)

I m guessing 100 BF for a 6 foot table and 4×4 corner post?
Are you going to be using Cyrpress throughout the entire frame or use some cheaper stuff on the interal unseen framing?
Thanks,
JP

- JP4LSU


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#13 posted 04-29-2018 12:49 PM



Looking at the spec sheet it looks to weigh 200# I would also think 1/4” stock way to light to support that. I would go 3/4” or stay home, and not have any spans near the grill where I didn t have crossing support at least every 12”

That said things I build hardly ever fall apart :-)

- therealSteveN

Thanks thereal Steven
I’ll be using 4/4 stock and probably some 8/4 for frames. I might laminate the 4/4 to get some 2×4 dimensions.

The only place I was considering 1/2 or 1/4” side panels or doors.

That thing sure felt heavier than 200 lbs when getting out of the SUV and into my metal stand.
Thanks,
JP

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#14 posted 04-29-2018 04:29 PM



Mike,
nice set up. I like the cooler and the stove installs. I was contemplating a small cooler not just for beer but also to wrap up smoked meat and throw it in there to let it rest for an hour before cutting.
-JP

- JP4LSU


Thanks!

The black box to the right of the grill is actually a charcoal bucket. The 90s era Weber Performers had a bucket that hid under the stainless. I retained it and use it to hold my store bought smoking woods and chimney paper.

-- Sawdust makes me whole --Mike in STL

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#15 posted 04-30-2018 08:11 AM

Well 200# is 200#, and a dead lift of that makes a lot of my body parts want to lie down for a while :-)

I didn’t see the 1/4, or 1/2” panels as sides and doors, that would be fine. I was just thinking the supporting top. Go big or stay home there as they say.

-- Think safe, be safe

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