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Forum topic by Woodshopfreak posted 03-23-2008 07:31 AM 5378 views 0 times favorited 32 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Woodshopfreak

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03-23-2008 07:31 AM

Topic tags/keywords: humor question norm brad nails

Who agrees with me that Norm uses to many brad nails. Sometimes they are really not needed in his projects. Not to be rude to him because his projects a great, but I jsut have noticed that he love to break out the nailer and he loves his buiscuit cutter as well lol. I was always told that if you can use a clamp were you won’t see little nail holes.

-- Tyler, Illinois


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#1 posted 03-23-2008 07:33 AM

He does use them a lot. You can beat them for speed for places that won’t show.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#2 posted 03-23-2008 09:55 AM

He also uses them (brads) quite a bit in lieu of clamps. Things get done a lot differently in a production environment.

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#3 posted 03-23-2008 01:05 PM

The 23 gauge pin nailers leave an almost inconspicuous hole.

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#4 posted 03-23-2008 01:35 PM

i would not recomend analizing the right and wrongs of what norm does on t v . those type shows are not just wooworking shows they are very clever infomercials . thier purpose is to showcase woodworking tools and products . if bostich for example did a 30 min. straight forward infomercial showcaseing thier nailers, compressors and fasteners , within 10 min. youd be bored and change the channel . but you will eargerly sit thru 5 30 min. infomercials to watch norm build a hutch . norm may be the star of that show but thats not to say hes the boss . im sure theres conflicts behind the scenes like norm saying it should get clamped not nailed . and the producers saying bostich is paying a lot more to nail it than bessy will to clamp it . .
thats my view on not only wood working shows but also hot rod s and motorcycles such as american chopper . they build snap on tool bikes , miller welders ect. they have to be the all time most successful worldwide . just my 2 cents

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#5 posted 03-23-2008 01:53 PM

I totally agree with mrtrim. “you hit the nailer” on the head!

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#6 posted 03-23-2008 02:52 PM

In any of the shows, if you see the brand name they paid. There is a big business that revolves around product placement.

-- Frank Auge---Nichols NY----"My opinion is neither copyrighted nor trademarked, but it is price competitive."

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teenagewoodworker

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#7 posted 03-23-2008 02:53 PM

he does use a lot of brads but i guess that i do to. i would use less if i had a biscuit joiner but you don’t even really need to fill the holes after you stain it. the stain gets on the nail blending it in and the poly sort of fills the hole. just what i’ve observed as most of my pieces are pine and i stain them.

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Thuan

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#8 posted 03-23-2008 02:59 PM

Norm is just used to his old contracting days in the 80’s when all those guys used were glue and brads to do trim work. That’s why he still wears that monster tool rig. You gotta love that guy.

-- Thuan

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#9 posted 03-23-2008 04:20 PM

You guys are something else. I am in the television business and you are so far off base its comical. Sure, companies pay (sometimes) a lot of money for placement, but unless the show is a runaway hit, its not the ‘fleecing of America’ picture you are painting.

I love how people view things from their narrow perspective and formulate some grand conspiracy theory to support their inherent misgivings. Sad.

See it for what it is, a guy doing what he loves and sharing with others. Does he answer to producers and such? Of course, nothing is free, but its not what you think.

JC

-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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#10 posted 03-23-2008 04:31 PM

To funny… I am sure it is somewhere in the middle, product placement is a consideration I am sure.

I have said a few times to friends (about Norm) and I am by far the expert on it but Norm seems to be a carpenter making furniture not a furniture maker doing carpentry. “Get-r-done” comes to mind.. “nail it quick before it rots”, “are you looking at the ocean?”, “are You on a holiday there, get to work”... are all things I remember hearing on the job.. and I would bet Norm has said a few times to his helpers.. Time is money and he (even in his old age) move the job alone pretty fast. I love him.

-- "so much to learn and so little time"..

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#11 posted 03-23-2008 07:01 PM

Before we all lose perspective, let’s remember one thing. WGBH in Boston has always been one of the most enterprising of PBS stations around the country, having launched entire genres of shows on a shoestring budget. I believe Julia Child, (cooking) Jim Crockett (victory gardens) as well as the woodworking series with Norm Abram. These shows were all launched on a shoestring by WGBH Boston, with no idea of how well-received they would become. They relied heavily on Corporate sponsorship to survive those pioneer days of PBS how-to broadcasting. Look beyond Norm’s enormous resaw bandsaw and 24” planer and see the man for who he is: the dedicated, knowledgeable person that he is, willing to share his knowledge in a forthright manner to all who wish to be inspired. The man has a gift that the other how-to woodworking hosts will never emulate. I’ve met Norm, attending the launch of a “Woodworker’s Warehouse” franchise in Portsmouth, NH, He listened to everyone who wished to speak, and his patient, thoughtful replies to people attending there made him, in my eyes, a role model for those who aspire to learning the craft. If you’re really listening to his words, he advocates learning your craft first, and enhancing your work with the best tools you can afford.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#12 posted 03-23-2008 07:06 PM

If Stradivarius was alive today….he’d be using Gorilla Glue…

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#13 posted 03-23-2008 10:40 PM

It think it all comes to a middle position. He uses what he feels he can use and yes, he answers to the corporate types, but I think if he wanted to clamp something instead of nail it, he would. Those brad nailers are not bad things – they are just a different way to do a build. Time is money, as a carpenter, furniture maker, movie producer, baker, tailor, etc. If you do woodworking for fun – time is not an issue, but when money gets in the picture time is everything.

Tyler – I think you are right to question the way someone (even Norm) does something. Look at this post – you’ve got several other perspectives on the issue and you may now either carry the same opinion you started with or see things in a different light.

Keep asking questions – it does us alll good.

-- "Our past judges our present." JFK - 1962; American Heritage Magazine

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jm82435

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#14 posted 03-23-2008 11:23 PM

I think the guy from the Woodwrights Shop (Roy Underhill?) would say that we all use too many power tools. I think it is a matter of personal preference, style, philosophy as to which tools we choose to use and how we use them… I think I need one of those headless pinners…

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

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dennis mitchell

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#15 posted 03-23-2008 11:27 PM

Ya but ever Roy is under the fingers of the corporate suspender maker monopoly dudes…man.

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