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Forum topic by siki posted 04-18-2018 08:55 PM 1334 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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siki

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04-18-2018 08:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question sawstop alignment

I’ve been a proud owner of a SawStop ICS (industrial version) table saw for a number of years, and have had nothing but a great experience with the saw and their customer service. This is the first time I’ve had somewhat of an issue but it’s probably “user error”, so I’m turning to the forums to see what your opinions are.

I have aligned the blade to the miter slot before but only at 90 degrees and now I wanted to see/align it at 45 as well. I had no problem realigning the blade again at 90 but when I went to check how it was at the 45 degree tilt, I found that the back side of the blade was out by about 0.01 (relative to the right side miter slot, it was out and away from the slot towards the left). I went to the manual and try to follow it to align the blade to the tilt angle (pg 53 in the ICS manual). I’m an engineer by day and, to be honest, this section I found very confusing and counter-intuitive. It tells you to tap on one side of a V-bracket that connects the rear elevation shaft to the rear of the trunnion. I think you have to tap on the other side of this V-bracket than what manual says, but let’s not even focus on that for a moment.

I called SawStop support to try to get some clarity on how to properly do it and the tech basically told me that I’d better not mess with the V-bracket at the back of the trunnion and also that their “tolerance” for the blade alignment at 45 degrees is 12 thou, so it’s within that and I shouldn’t even bother.

Now, I’m not one to be chasing perfection just for the sake of perfection, but I’d like to build some casework with miter joins at the corners and I think that much of a misalignment at 45 will show up on the wide cross cuts when I put the two pieces together.

Has anybody done this on a SawStop? I know other cabinet saws have to have their tables shimmed at either the front or the back to get this alignment correctly but the SawStop manual advises this other method. Should I even bother? Is this much misalignment really acceptable?


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#1 posted 04-18-2018 09:32 PM

It’s your saw do whatever you like. Your within tolerances I don’t know what yu expect from the manufacturer.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#2 posted 04-18-2018 09:36 PM

I think I would make a few test cuts and see how it works. There’s a fellow from SS that kind of watches things around here (I think his name is Trent)...he may catch this and offer some advice, or maybe confirm it’s not a problem.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#3 posted 04-18-2018 09:59 PM


Now, I m not one to be chasing perfection just for the sake of perfection, but I d like to build some casework with miter joins at the corners and I think that much of a misalignment at 45 will show up on the wide cross cuts when I put the two pieces together.

- siki

Until you make some test cuts that mimic the one’s you’re considering for your casework, you won’t know. Make the test cuts and go from there.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#4 posted 04-19-2018 03:20 AM

Cutting test pieces is the same advice given on the other forum.
Until you do that you don’t know if you have an issue or not.

-- Regards, Charlie in Rowlett, TX --------I talk to myself, because sometimes I need expert advice.---------

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#5 posted 04-26-2018 11:34 PM

FYI: I’ve been working with the OP on this issue and it’s resolved now. If anyone else experiences this, please don’t hesitate to call the SawStop Service Department at (503)582-9934.

In case you are wondering, I think that the problem was caused by the previous saw owner having adjusted the riving knife clamp in a way that it was too far back and one of the adjustment bolts was hitting the underside of the cast iron table. This caused it to shift things out of alignment when angling the blade to 45-degrees if you really cranked down on the tilt wheel, which I suspect he had to do since it would only go to about 44-degrees or so.

Once he got the saw, he noticed that the bolt was hitting and made a modification so it wouldn’t do that any more. This fixed the problem of it hitting the table but didn’t really address the root cause.

I had him move his riving knife clamp forward a bit and he went through adjusting the V-bracket to get it all back in alignment.

It is VERY rare that anyone would ever need to adjust that bracket. The last time I had to adjust that was about four years ago.

Anyway, the moral of the story is that if you have a problem with your saw, give us a call. More importantly, if you don’t like the answer you get from the service tech, call back and ask for someone else. We all have different approaches. I like to dig into a problem and stick with it until it’s fixed. This works for a lot of our customers but some of them don’t have time for that and just want new parts sent out or a service tech to fix it for them. Either way, you shouldn’t have to make adjustments like this normally and if you do, let’s make sure that we are attacking the real problem and not just a symptom.

-- SawStop Users' Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sawstopusersgroup/

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Fred Hargis

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#6 posted 04-27-2018 10:36 AM

Awesome!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#7 posted 04-27-2018 11:09 AM

What a great explanation…..

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#8 posted 04-27-2018 11:50 AM

Trent, it’s largely due to your involvement, professionalism, and thoroughness here on this forum that I’m finally going to be throwing some money at you guys next tax season. I think the only person I know that talks to his clientele more than you is my barber :p

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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#9 posted 04-27-2018 02:18 PM

I think Trent’s presence and transparency here is a huge plus for SawStop.

-- Regards, Charlie in Rowlett, TX --------I talk to myself, because sometimes I need expert advice.---------

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#10 posted 04-27-2018 03:06 PM

My Dealings with an issue with my ICS SawStop was handled above and beyond any and all customer service I’ve ever received anywhere due to Trent’s Davis expert customer service abilities and expertize with SawStops products. Trent is a superstar in the customer service field and really cares about people.
SawStop give this man a giant raise and count your blessings for having a one in a million employee.
Thanks so much for the help you gave me Trent.

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#11 posted 04-27-2018 05:41 PM

Oh, you guys! You’re making me blush!

-- SawStop Users' Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sawstopusersgroup/

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#12 posted 04-27-2018 06:04 PM

Sorry for not replying earlier but all of the above is absolutely right! Trent helped me get to the bottom of this – why it got out of alignment in the first place – and then the fix was relatively straight forward. Again, a huge thank you for Trent!

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