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Michael

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04-18-2018 12:46 AM

I recently attended an estate sale and purchased a box of old chisels, a few turning chisels and an older Craftsman dado stack for $40. The turning chisels are in good condition and all the handles are solid, however most of the chisels appeared very old. There are some I don’t even really know the purpose of them.

Dwights French & Co. I’m not sure what these chisels even are to be honest. Any information would be helpful:

I believe these are mortise chisels. There isn’t any indication as to the make:

2 CF Jennings and 1 Craftsman chisel:

JNO Cutler Gouges

Lathe chisels. The first set is unnamed, the second is Marples

I just started to get into turning, and am planning on making handles for these. I’d like to know as much as I could about these. There isn’t a lot of information on the web, they seem very old, but the steel is very strong as well.


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Loren

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#1 posted 04-18-2018 12:51 AM

Those things at the top with the hooked ends
are plow plane irons. I suppose you’d tap the
hook with a hammer to back the iron out a
a little.

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#2 posted 04-18-2018 12:54 AM

Really cool stuff. I haven’t ever heard of a plow plane before now.

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bandit571

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#3 posted 04-18-2018 12:54 AM

I know exactly where the cutters in that first picture would be used..

The groove is to fit onto the skate…..that has been ground the match. Keeps the cutter centered on the skate.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Michael

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#4 posted 04-18-2018 12:57 AM

Do you think the fit for the cutters are generally universal? If I wanted to find one to fit them that is.

I did a little looking around into Dwights French & Co and from what I have seen they could be as old as the mid 1800s?

::edit::

Looks like they aren’t. However there are a number of 19th century antique plow planes that use this blade found on eBay. I think I’m going to keep my eye on finding one for a reasonable price and playing with these cutters :)

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#5 posted 04-18-2018 02:28 AM

If you’d like to sell the mortise chisels in the second picture let me know please
Thanks!
Grant

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Michael

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#6 posted 04-18-2018 02:31 AM

Thanks for the offer Grant, but I’m going get these back into working condition and use them :)

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#7 posted 04-18-2018 02:46 AM

Good deal! I just wanted to throw that out there! Enjoy and keep posting pics!

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#8 posted 04-18-2018 12:56 PM

You got a great deal, those plough irons are a good find. It looks like they aren’t a matched set (some have the sneck I think it’s called going one way, some the other) but you have a good range of sizes. As you’ve found they are meant to be matched to a specific plane but they can work in others. I’ve never seen anything specific on what would need to be done to fettle them to work to their full potential with a non matched plane though.

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Michael

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#9 posted 04-18-2018 04:27 PM


I’ve never seen anything specific on what would need to be done to fettle them to work to their full potential with a non matched plane though.

Therein lies the challenge. The planes don’t go cheap, even on eBay. So finding a matching one will be tough. There are a few basic planes being sold with a cutter already fit into them, but they aren’t adjustable.

Maybe I’ll make it a project to make my own at some point.

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#10 posted 04-18-2018 05:09 PM

the second picture looks like Chinese mortise chisel, I mean chinese style, not chinese made

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#11 posted 04-18-2018 05:20 PM

They’re very heavy and seem to be made of good steel. There’s a fair amount of pitting on them, but they cleaned up nicely. Looking forward to turning some handles for them.

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