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Forum topic by Redvan posted 04-11-2018 03:54 PM 859 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Redvan

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04-11-2018 03:54 PM

Hi,
New member and I read the rules.

I built a jewelry cabinet for my wife with plans I got from a popular woodworkers site and flocked all the drawers I added as well as plan defined compartments. I’ve done this before with excellent results but this time, I got spotty results and I do not know what to do.

I know I can’t do a touch up as that would leave edges. Can I do a second coat or should I do something else?

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Red.

PS: Material is black walnut so I can’t just scrap and start over. Also, I sealed all surfaces to be flocked prior to application, just like last time.


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Gene Howe

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#1 posted 04-11-2018 05:14 PM

Can you be a bit more specific re: spotty results?
The flocking can be scraped off and a new coat applied. The material left after scraping, if any, should dissolve into the new coat of paint.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Redvan

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#2 posted 04-11-2018 05:31 PM

Gene,
I sealed the surfaces, used the proper adhesive, applied the fibers, let it set for 12 hours and when I tapped off the excess, there were red spots where the fibers didn’t adhere.

Red.

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#3 posted 04-11-2018 05:40 PM

Never tried the flocking but after your results I think I would scrape and sand off what I could and then use adhesive backed felt which is available on line or at most hobby/craft stores. You can also use spray adhesive and regular felt but that is harder to work with than adhesive backed felt. With the adhesive backed felt you can dry fit the pieces to get it right and then start with one edge, carefully pulling the adhesive off as you work.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#4 posted 04-11-2018 06:04 PM

I’d scrape it. Have never had that issue so far.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#5 posted 04-11-2018 09:20 PM

The only reason I can think of why the fibers wouldnt adhere is that the paint/adhesive dried in those spots. Or, drops of moisture interfered.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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TheFridge

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#6 posted 04-12-2018 02:23 AM



The only reason I can think of why the fibers wouldnt adhere is that the paint/adhesive dried in those spots. Or, drops of moisture interfered.

- Gene Howe

Ditto. I’m sure there is a good explanation. I tend to work quickly.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Redvan

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#7 posted 04-12-2018 11:58 AM

Gene and TheFridge,
I took your advice and scraped one of the drawers which I will re-flock this morning. It was much easier to remove than I expected (once I sharpened my scraper).

Thanks for your quick responses,
Red.

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Tennessee

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#8 posted 04-12-2018 12:59 PM

I have been in the felt camp all along. At the gallery where I sell my bandsaw boxes, another person had a flocked drawer small chest, more than one, and some complaints came back that over time, the flock started to come off.

I know that can be corrected, but I didn’t like the fibers, the mess, and the felt just goes in so nice with a good 3M adhesive spray on the back of the felt. And I’ve never had a complaint on felt coming off, or felt flaking off, or empty spots, etc. I know I’ve sold hundreds of boxes at that gallery over the last 5-6 years. All felt lined drawers. I use the 3M adhesive in the dark green spray can. Can’t remember the name, I think there is a 90 in it.

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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#9 posted 04-12-2018 03:42 PM

I’m in the camp with Tennessee. I like using fabric; mostly velvet but sometimes anti-tarnish material which comes in different colors. Of course, your choice of fabrics is endless. I like to cut thin cardboard (like from a cereal box) to the shape of the area I’m covering and then glue and wrap the fabric around that. Then glue the wrapped cardboard in place. This way, any exposed edges look finished and corners have a clean line where the nap merges. I use similar glue, but sometimes rather than spraying it on, I will spray some of the glue into the spray can cap and use an acid brush for application into tight places.

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Walker

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#10 posted 04-12-2018 04:12 PM

This is why I love this site… I had no idea what flocking was, never even heard that term before. A few youtube videos later and I got the idea and if I ever wanted to try it, I know right where to find some experts for advice.

-- ~Walker

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Gene Howe

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#11 posted 04-12-2018 09:54 PM

For drawers and square boxes, I use bilyo’s method. For small curved areas, like bandsaw boxes, flocking is more expedient.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Redvan

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#12 posted 04-13-2018 02:00 PM

The scraping and re-flocking came out as it should have the first time – perfect!

I believe the adhesive was too thick the first time so the second time I thinned it with about half a tablespoon of mineral spirits (pint can) and it was easier to apply and left a glass-like surface, no brush strokes like the first time.

Thanks for all your advice and quick responses.
Red.

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#13 posted 04-14-2018 12:33 PM

Glad it came out good for you.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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