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04-09-2018 01:06 PM

Topic tags/keywords: oak veneer

Hi,

I purchased this veneer which was supposed to be rift cut white oak, random matched. Are the third and second to last strips red oak? They look very red to me but I’m not an expert.

Thanks!


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#1 posted 04-09-2018 03:33 PM

White Oak isn’t necessarily white. It can range from light to medium brown. Red Oak can fall into a similar color spectrum. I think the main difference between the two is that White Oak is harder/denser.

More info here.

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#2 posted 04-09-2018 03:52 PM

It might be alder.

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#3 posted 04-09-2018 05:00 PM

An generally observable difference between red oak and white oak is the pores in the end grain. Red Oak has decidedly open pores whereas white oak has tight or closed pores. That will be hard to see on a thin veneer.
There is a “chemical” test using a nitrate solution but your wood appears to be sealed so that won’t work here.
On flat sawn wood the pores may be visible on the surface and there is a difference in the visible rays with white oak having rays about 1 1/2” long and red oak only abut 1/2” long.

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#4 posted 04-09-2018 05:52 PM

White oak can have a pink color.

There are a number of ways to test
but the sodium nitrate method is quite definitive when the other tests are inconclusive.

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#5 posted 04-09-2018 11:02 PM

‘Pink’ White oak isn’t unusual. I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s common…but not unusual.

It’s definitely a random match. A little too random for my liking.
It’s poorly color matched IMO, and some of the veneer is very questionable/borderline rift cut veneer. Halfway between rift and flat cut.

Good quality Rift cut White Oak veneer should have dead straight to ‘nearly’ dead straight grain with very little character.

The first 2 1/2 rows in the link are a classic rift cut.
https://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-b&dcr=0&biw=1088&bih=501&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=uejLWrO0LYu6tQXp2bPgBQ&q=rift+cut+white+oak+veneer&oq=rift+cut+white+oak+veneer&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i24k1.2185394.2187712.0.2190152.7.2.0.5.5.0.186.186.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.6.282....0.88teT3tZyCs

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#6 posted 04-10-2018 10:15 PM

Thanks everyone. I am trying to get slab front kitchen cabinet doors made. I want them to look like solid wood but don’t want the pitfalls of warped wood. I thought this would be the best route to go. There is a bit too much color contrast in the strips for me. The grain doesn’t bother me but the color does.

This is the look I’m going for:

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