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unclearthur

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03-31-2018 04:01 AM

I’m making a simple little case to hold extra toilet paper rolls in our bathroom. Going to be made from some scrap pine and/or plywood I have.

All the trim in the room is basically wood painted black, so I want to do the same with the small case.

Normally I varnish projects, not paint them. Painting interior walls with latex paint and roller etc is no problem but whenever I’ve painted any sort of furniture, shelf, etc in the past its turned out like garbage (streaky, dull etc).

I assume for something like this you paint before assembly, taping the areas to be glued.

Any tips on surface prep, type of paint to use, technique? (I don’t have or want to buy any spray equipment).

Thanks for any suggestions


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#1 posted 03-31-2018 04:40 AM

I’d put a coat or two of SealCoat down, sand that smooth and then use aerosol colored lacquer. My favorite brand is Mohawk, but I’m sure there are many others that perform well.

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#2 posted 03-31-2018 04:52 AM

Thanks ….. haven’t used those types of things before, do you mean this and this ?

Is the colored lacquer completely opaque or do you still see some grain through the finish?

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#3 posted 03-31-2018 05:32 AM


Thanks ….. haven t used those types of things before, do you mean this and this ?

Is the colored lacquer completely opaque or do you still see some grain through the finish?

- unclearthur

Yes, the second one is Mohawk. I prefer to shop at this site, since they are more consumer friendly and the shipping costs are more reasonable. It looks like they have black gloss and black satin to choose from. If you want flatter, you can do either and topcoat it with their dead flat pre-cat lacquer.

It is totally opaque. They have a toner product too, but this is solid color.

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#4 posted 03-31-2018 02:28 PM

The colored lacquer is great, but spraying is advised.

A while back I wanted black shelves in an entertainment center (BB plywood). I used spray cans of flat black to get a nice deep color on the wood then smoothed it out with #0000 steel wool. I then applied thinned poly with a brush and also smoothed that with the wool after a few coats. It came out great! Solid black with a nice sheen from the poly, very smooth and well protected.

For your TP hopper, I’d finish before assembly, using tape on the glue edges as you gave surmised.

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#5 posted 03-31-2018 04:23 PM

OK thanks I’ll give colored lacquer a go. Never even knew it existed.

I can’t seem to get the Zinsser sealcoat around here (in Canada); would just a normal latex primer work or does it need to be oil based or something else to be compatible with the lacquer?

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#6 posted 03-31-2018 05:45 PM


OK thanks I ll give colored lacquer a go. Never even knew it existed.

I can t seem to get the Zinsser sealcoat around here (in Canada); would just a normal latex primer work or does it need to be oil based or something else to be compatible with the lacquer?

- unclearthur

Can you order it, or is it banned there? Same question for the lacquer. The only two lacquers I can recommend without hesitation that come in aerosol cans are Mohawk and Behlen. If you have a Woodcraft store in the area, they will sell, or can order, Behlen. You can get either from the link I posted earlier, assuming there’s no problem shipping it into Canada. I know you can get SealCoat on Amazon.

Oh, and using a latex primer under lacquer is a bad idea. You don’t absolutely have to seal the wood, you’ll just wind up using more coats of lacquer to get a smooth finish.

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#7 posted 03-31-2018 08:36 PM



OK thanks I ll give colored lacquer a go. Never even knew it existed.

- unclearthur

its been around a long time. nitrocellulose lacquer was used on cars some time starting around the ‘20’s

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#8 posted 04-01-2018 12:55 AM

Mohawk and Behlen are good products. But another option to consider on a project of that size…

-Shellac based spray primer like this: https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/zinsser/primer-sealers/b-i-n-shellac-base-primer
-Let it dry overnight and lightly sand. It sands very easy by hand.
-Spray top coat of your favorite rattle can spray paint… flat, satin, or gloss. I would prefer lacquer, but just about anything will stick to the shellac primer.

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#9 posted 04-01-2018 02:14 AM

I’ve had really good experience with painting using General Finishes Chalk Paints. I usually use a shellac based primer first. The GF Chalk paint isn’t really a true chalk paint… it’s really an acrylic paint and sprays from an HVLP really nicely.

-- Breeze

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