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03-28-2018 04:11 PM

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I am extended borrowing an older Delta dust collector that has the traditional top and bottom back next to the impeller unit. My question is has anyone else had experieince with these were the intake is from above? The unit is always getting clogged up when using the planer or jointer.

I did borrow a friends older red dust collector with an identical setup other than his impeller unit is sitting sideways and had no problems with it plugging up using the jointer and planer. A coworker has an old porter cable that sucks up from the bottom and he has now problems either.

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#1 posted 03-28-2018 05:26 PM

I had a Delta DC similar to what you describe, 1HP I think, and I wound up putting a 30 gal garbage can collector in front of it to catch most of the big stuff. The planer really puts a lot of chips out so you need to get them out of the air stream as soon as possible. The garbage can was also a lot easier to empty compared the bags on the DC.

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#2 posted 03-28-2018 06:28 PM

I’ve never seen one with the intake on top. Is the hose kinking or have a sharp bend where it droops? I have an older 1hp Delta and it has no trouble keeping up with my planer. The intake is on bottom but the hose goes up and over.

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#3 posted 03-28-2018 06:39 PM

If you’re using flexible hose maybe it’s choking
with the top-inlet dust collector by making a
sharp bend. I think I had a JET one like that
but I usually used it with a separator in front
and don’t remember any problems with it.

I made a plywood box to turn the corner on top
of my wide belt sander. It has a 3” outlet at
the top and I wanted to go to 4” on the side. I
could have bought stuff but I didn’t feel like it.
The box works okay. It’s probably less efficient
than a round reducer and elbow but it’s acceptable.

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#4 posted 03-28-2018 06:42 PM

I have it connected to flex hosing but it is going from horizontal to vertical with a sweeping 90 down and no extra bends slumping over.

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#5 posted 03-28-2018 06:50 PM

Maybe the bags are clogged.

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#6 posted 03-28-2018 06:51 PM



Maybe the bags are clogged.

- Loren


If by that you mean full of debris it happens with freshly emptied bags.

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#7 posted 03-28-2018 07:03 PM

Have you checked that the impeller is clear? On mine there are bars that protect the impeller and sometimes debris gets stuck there and reduces airflow. Also, how long is the run between planer and DC? The Delta might be undersize for your shop.

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#8 posted 03-28-2018 07:50 PM

The run from the DC to the tools is maybe 10 feet total. The impeller is clear, the bars that protect the impeller are were the wood shavings bind up. The other DC i have used had the same guard over the impeller. I am planning on building a Thein baffle unit for this but haven’t gotten that far yet.

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#9 posted 03-29-2018 12:51 AM

Scribble,

Can you post a pic? What model are you talking about? Other than the 50-840, I believe a lot of Delta units are made to configure the motor on the top or bottom (you can flip the motor to the top and have the hose come out of the bottom. When you say you tried a red one, can you provide a make and model of that as well? Comparing a 1Hp Delta to a 2HP Penn State can make a big difference.

Hope that helps, Let us know what you do.

Carl

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#10 posted 03-29-2018 12:45 PM

Here are several pictures, I dont seem to have one with it actually connected. The unit is a 50-840. You can see the flex hose in the bottom of the pipe run to see how close the runs are to the DC.

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#11 posted 03-29-2018 01:14 PM

Scribble,

Try connecting ONLY the DC and a hose to your planner (no pipe). That unit is mot designed to have any ductwork connected!

Carl

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#12 posted 03-29-2018 01:18 PM



Scribble,

Try connecting ONLY the DC and a hose to your planner (no pipe). That unit is mot designed to have any ductwork connected!

Carl

- Carl10

Would the HF unit be able to handle what I am doing??

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#13 posted 03-29-2018 02:22 PM

Scribble,

That unit actually has the same impeller size (10”) you already have. It does perform slightly better than your unit and many people use that unit with ducting. Many others upgrade the impeller with the Rikon 12” impeller. Most any 1.5HP unit you find on CL will perform better than either of those units as they have larger impellers.

Hope this helps. Let us know what you do.

Carl

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