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Forum topic by Drumn2121 posted 03-27-2018 04:24 PM 889 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-27-2018 04:24 PM

I am building another table similar to the Pottery Barn Toscana table and it has breadboard ends on it. The first one I built I did the rookie mistake of not accounting for wood movement and pocket hole attached the breadboard ends to the pieces of 2×6 I used for the table top. This time I made 1/2” thick by 3” wide pegs and routed out holes in each board and the breadboard end and glued the 2×6 side and only one on the breadboard side. I want to attach the table top using table top clips to the apron to allow for movement as well but I want to support the breadboard ends a little more so someone won’t break them off if they stand or sit on them. How can I add support to them while still allowing for the movement of the 2×6’s and what’s the best way to use the clips because it’s my first time?


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#1 posted 03-27-2018 04:28 PM

This is what it looks like from my first one.

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#2 posted 03-28-2018 08:01 PM

Use three pegs.

Drill the center hole the same diameter as the peg. Maybe you’ll have to sand the dowel just a tad and drive it home with a mallet.

Instead of holes for the two outside pegs, make slots 3-4 times as long as the peg’s diameter. If the top swells, the peg can move side to side in the slot without splitting the table top. This keeps the breadboard end tight against the end grain but allows for the swelling across the grain of the table top.

-- Dale

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#3 posted 03-28-2018 09:21 PM

That should hold the ends in strong enough for someone to put weight on it without any issues?

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#4 posted 03-28-2018 09:52 PM

From your description it sounds like you used dowels/loose tenons to attach the breadboard ends and nothing else. If that is correct then there is going to be issues keeping the joint secure and tight.

Or am I misunderstanding and you did a true tongue and groove breadboard such as shown in this article from Wood Magazine?

That’s the type of construction Dale is talking about with the pegs and elongated holes. The tongue and mortise support the weight and help keep the top flat, while the pegs hold the breadboard end securely up against the top.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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#5 posted 03-29-2018 01:35 AM

Sounds like you did it with home made dominoes. Thats fine. I made a dresser with breadboard ends the same way. It’s remarkable how much it moves season to season.

If you think there is n9t enough support there for so.eone to sit or lean on it, you could try teaching your guests better manners. :)

If that is not an option, you could screw a cleat to the bottom of the breadboard and run it back under the table top. Since the table will not try and grow much length wise, and it is fixed at only on point on the breadboard, it should be fine and help support the joint against shearing.

Brian

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#6 posted 03-29-2018 01:44 AM

It has something like dominoes glued on the table side and one glued on breadboard too.

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#7 posted 03-29-2018 07:23 PM

Longer tongues and deeper grooves should give the breadboard ends more support.

-- Jon -- Just a Minnesota kid hanging out in Kansas

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