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Forum topic by RichBolduc posted 03-26-2018 02:43 PM 1644 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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RichBolduc

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03-26-2018 02:43 PM

So the wife said go ahead an get a table saw…. I’ve narrowed it down to two saws unless a good used one actually hows up on the local CL. Being a novice/weekend warrior, how much overkill would the 1023 be for me? I like the size and the built in router table as I was planning on building one into the 0833 anyways. After reading through the forums, I’ve seen several people say that the 5HP is to much for a beginner. Personally, I like the fence of the 0833P more and the overhead dust extraction, but I like the built in router table of the other. I see the pro’s and con’s of both. Given the choice, what would you guys recommend? What I plan on building, I have no clue yet… Boxes, end tables, coffee tables, shelves, some shop cabinets.

Both will end up on mobile bases and I’m getting 220 wired in to the shop the first week of April.

Thanks in advance, Rich


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#1 posted 03-26-2018 04:06 PM

I have never used the G0833P, but the G1023RLWX was my second tablesaw and I had it for over 15 years. Too much HP for a beginner doesnt make sense. a Using is 5hp saw for light work is no more dangerous than using a 1hp, but using an underpowered saw for deep cuts in hardwood is more dangerous. I loved the ShopFox classiv fence on the 1023. Solid and easily adjustable. Personally I never liked overarm dust collection, but I know others who love it. The built in router table unimpressive. Doesnt get in the way or anything, but If it had a solid wing instead I would probably prefer it.

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#2 posted 03-26-2018 08:32 PM

Never used the G0833P, but I have the 1023 left tilt 3 hp Griz and it is all the saw I will ever need. Quiet, accurate and bulletproof IMHO. I have an Incra TS fence on it and get repeatability and accurate cut fine tuning which enhances the overall reliability of the 1023. Griz also has good customer service. Just my 2 cents from my frame of reference.

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#3 posted 03-26-2018 08:56 PM

These two saws are in completely different classes. Sort of like comparing an S10 to a Silverado 3500. If you can handle the price difference, I would not hesitate to go with the G1023R. The G1023R is a very well proven saw, and is a great value for what you get. It may be overkill for a hobbyist to some degree, but I doubt you’ll ever regret stepping up. It’ll do what it needs to do without fuss. It’s a very noticeable difference…not only having ~ 50% more power, but everything about it is more robust. The operation of the handwheels will be smoother, the trunnions and underpinnings are much more robust, the added mass works in your favor, and the fence is beefier. It’ll be much less sensitive to blade selection and setup of the saw, and won’t work as hard. The G0833 may work out fine, but is much less proven.

I was in a similar boat in 2008. I made the jump from a good hybrid saw to a Shop Fox W1677 (same as the older G1023SL), and have never looked back. I no longer worry if I’m pushing the saw too hard, if it’ll last, or if I made the right decision. The something to be said for the peace of mind and pleasure that comes with owning a really good tool vs owning one that will suffice….especially a table saw. Good luck and please keep us posted.

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#4 posted 03-27-2018 12:27 AM

And a g0690 just popped up locally for $700…..

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#5 posted 03-27-2018 12:56 AM

And a g0690 just popped up locally for $700…..

- RichBolduc

Another really good saw with the same set of advantages as the G1023, plus has larger stock rip capacity. Grab it if its in decent shape. Several hundred less expensive too!

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#6 posted 03-27-2018 01:04 AM

I just purchased and assembled the 1023RLWX this weekend. All i could think about as i put this saw together was “I can’t believe they can make money selling this quality saw for $1,500”

at 5HP it is more than ill ever need, but i wanted something that i would not have to sell in a couple years (20 years). I am amazed at the quality of every aspect of this saw.

Now if only my 8” Grizzly jointer would get in stock and off backorder…

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#7 posted 03-27-2018 01:19 AM

If you’re amazed at the quality of a grizzly, you should see a jet, delta, or PM.

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#8 posted 03-27-2018 01:50 AM



If you’re amazed at the quality of a grizzly, you should see a jet, delta, or PM.

- TheFridge

What could be that much better on those brands for 2x the money? i have used delta products and they do not seem to be of greater quality. I have heard great things about the others, but what does the average woodworker gain from these brands other than resale value. Better warranty and paint? I am just asking because i can’t justify the prices on some of these after having a couple grizzly products that have not disappointed (yet…).

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#9 posted 03-27-2018 03:47 PM

This is the 0690. Comes with “several new blades” and a zero clearance insert. $700 and the guy said he’ll deliver for free….Which I’ll throw him an extra $50 for. Should be going home with me today as long as it looks as good in person.

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#10 posted 03-27-2018 04:04 PM

Looks in good shape, but that’s not the original stock fence. That one looks like the Shop Fox W1410….still a good fence that many guys like, but I’d ask what happened to the stock fence. Also ask about the blade guard. If the guard isn’t included, I would not throw him $50 for delivery….JMO.

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#11 posted 03-27-2018 04:05 PM

I bought the G1023RLW last year and love it! I had been using a 25 year old Craftsman contractor saw (bought new) and as soon as I used the Grizzly I started kicking myself for waiting to long for the new saw. I didn’t go with the 5hp because I felt it was overkill and have had no problems cutting 8/4 oak with the 3hp. I also don’t use the router table in the extension. I really just wanted the extra table space.

-- Aaron - Aspiring Craftsman

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#12 posted 03-27-2018 04:15 PM



Looks in good shape, but that s not the original stock fence. That one looks like the Shop Fox W1410….still a good fence that many guys like, but I d ask about the stock fence. Also ask about the blade guard. If the guard isn t included, I would not throw him $50 for delivery….JMO.

- knotscott

Thanks for the heads up. I think I might prefer this fence as I like the t-slot option for mounting things. As for the blade guard, I’ll ask. Do you recommend the Grizzly one or is there a better after market option?

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#13 posted 03-27-2018 04:43 PM

I haven’t used the stock G0590 guard. Most stock blade guards are functional but cumbersome. If I were shelling out cash for one, I’d prefer something like a Sharkguard, but you’ll have to compare any price difference.

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#14 posted 03-27-2018 09:38 PM

Welp… The journey’s come to an end… the G0690 is in the shop. He was getting rid of it because he was restoring a PM66 (which I was also looking at a couple weeks ago).... He’s looking for the blade guard for me, but I have time as this weekend is the miter station build and then I still need to get 220 in stalled… Thanks for the advice everyone

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#15 posted 03-27-2018 11:38 PM



Welp… The journey s come to an end… the G0690 is in the shop. He was getting rid of it because he was restoring a PM66 (which I was also looking at a couple weeks ago).... He s looking for the blade guard for me, but I have time as this weekend is the miter station build and then I still need to get 220 in stalled… Thanks for the advice everyone

- RichBolduc

Sweet….congrats! I’m guessing you’ll like that saw a whole lot more than the G0833. Get it setup and put a good blade on it. Enjoy!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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