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Forum topic by JonnyRocket posted 03-26-2018 12:22 PM 2469 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JonnyRocket

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03-26-2018 12:22 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw grizzly riser kit tracking blade 316

I’ve got a 14” Grizzly Bandsaw (G0555LANV) which has been running fine. I finally (after 4 dang months) received the riser block kit (T25554) and got it installed. I put on a new 105” 1/2” Highland Woodworking wood slicer blade, ran some cuts, no issues. But I cannot for the life of me get the 3/16” 4tpi skiptooth blade to track correctly. I checked the wheels to make sure they were parallel and coplaner per the manual. I’ve tried different tensions. Even with hand turning the wheel the blade keeps slipping nearly off (I stop before it fully slips off) and no matter how minor I adjust the tracking knob the blade simply won’t stay in one spot. The one time I powered it on it fully slipped off and that noise was horrific…

What am I doing wrong here?


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#1 posted 03-26-2018 12:41 PM

Wheels should never be co-planer. There is no tracking stability if they are.

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#2 posted 03-26-2018 01:03 PM

So you are saying it runs off the wheel in either direction (front or back) no matter how you adjust? Or is the blade always running off on the same side of the wheel?

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#3 posted 03-26-2018 01:26 PM

Did you clean all the paint off the mating surfaces on the riser? Don’t worry about coplanar as soon as you adjust the tracking the wheels are no longer coplanar if they were to begin. If everything worked before you put on the riser something is wrong with the riser or your installation of same.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#4 posted 03-26-2018 01:43 PM

just seems to me a lot of people have troubles with riser blocks :<((

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#5 posted 03-26-2018 02:31 PM


Did you clean all the paint off the mating surfaces on the riser? Don’t worry about coplanar as soon as you adjust the tracking the wheels are no longer coplanar if they were to begin. If everything worked before you put on the riser something is wrong with the riser or your installation of same.

—Bruce, Boise, ID

That was one thing that seemed odd to me. The directions made it sound like it would have some very obvious rust protection stuff on it, much like the table did when I pulled it out (that was obvious, discolored slimy stuff). But when I sprayed on the WD-40 and let it sit for awhile, and then scrubbed, basically nothing got on the rag. I guess I will take it off and check it again.


So you are saying it runs off the wheel in either direction (front or back) no matter how you adjust? Or is the blade always running off on the same side of the wheel?

- WhyMe

Yup, either direction. It starts off running ok, then if I keep spinning the wheel it will slowly start to creep towards one side, so I make minor adjustment on tracking knob and it stops moving that direction but then starts to move the other direction.

Thanks for all your responses. I will probably take it apart in the next couple days and hope to get it working how it should be.

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builtinbkyn

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#6 posted 03-26-2018 02:41 PM

I put a riser on the GO555 I had. It worked, but was finicky adjusting it. I did have a Carter guide for narrow blades which did help. It also helped to use Alex Snodgrass video as a guide for how to properly tension a narrow blade. He suggests withdrawing the bottom guides so they have no influence on the blade and then push the top guides forward to apply tension to the blade. Watch the video to understand what I’m saying.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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JonnyRocket

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#7 posted 03-28-2018 07:02 PM

Well, I took it apart, scrubbed the hell out of the riser to remove the paint completely, put it back together, no change. I’ve reached out to Grizzly support for help. Hopefully get this resolved soon because I really want to start using this with these blades. :(

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#8 posted 03-28-2018 08:59 PM

Remove the coplanar shims. Do not run the wheels coplanar. It will work against you every step of the way.

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JonnyRocket

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#9 posted 03-30-2018 11:47 PM

Turns out the issue is with the blade itself. I’ve tried two other blades now and they both work completely fine. If I lay the blade on my flat counter it is raised a tiny bit on one side, which I’m guessing is contributing to the tracking issue. Now to try and get Highland to help me since it took so long to get the dang riser kit from when I actually purchased the blades it’s outside of their return policy. So we’ll see how it goes.

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#10 posted 03-31-2018 12:39 AM

Bandsaws just always seem to be the most finickie tools in the shop. Lots of moving parts that all affect each other. Do the Snodgrass setup and follow it TO THE LETTER which will ensure that the setup isn’t the problem.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#11 posted 03-31-2018 01:21 AM

I struggled with both my delta and HF band saw, till i figured out the blade is 60% of success, amazing how that feature is over looked by a lot of us, one assumes the quality of blades is decent, boy did i find out otherwise.

glad you got it fingered it out, nothing like a finely tuned band saw, the dust, the humm, the satisfaction
Rj in az

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