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Forum topic by onoitsmatt posted 03-24-2018 03:39 PM 815 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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onoitsmatt

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03-24-2018 03:39 PM

Hi All,

I’ve been keeping an eye out for a used Unisaw and there’s one listed locally that has been torn down. It’s a single phase 3hp variety. Below are photos from the ad.

The Unifence head that is pictured has the fence and head, but no rails. He said he has the original fence which is presumably a jetlock variety.

I’m just curious of 2 things. 1, is this a bad road to go down, given you can’t see the saw in action or does this seem like an ok deal? At least you can see all the parts and inspect for cracks etc. I’d assume I can spin all the moving parts to listen/feel for bearing issues, etc. He’s asking $600 but there’s room to negotiate.

I am not afraid of putting it back together. I tore down/rebuilt an old 50’s Delta 14” bandsaw a couple of years ago and enjoyed it.

Thanks for your input!

Matt

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ


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#1 posted 03-24-2018 05:09 PM

Matt,

That seems steep to me. But I guess pricing is regional. In the Detroit area that vintage is had for 500-600 fully assembled and working. Depending on condition it may be higher or lower. But you don’t know if all the bolts and parts are there, what works and all the time to assemble. Did he already replace the bearings? Without the fence rails, you might as well price in a new fence as well. (I am discounting the Jet Lock)

Like I said in AZ that may be a good price.

Carl

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uptoolateman

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#2 posted 03-24-2018 05:14 PM

As far as the fence rails go, if they are the standard Bessey style 2×3 rect tube you could build your own. VSC tools has a really good step by step tutorial on their site. I just built my 5’ rails for my Craftsmman for about 100 dollars including bolts and paint.

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onoitsmatt

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#3 posted 03-24-2018 05:37 PM

Thanks for the input. Yes, I think it is a little high at $500. I see them sell for much, much less locally, but they sell fast for lower prices. I missed out on a Powermatic Jointer and a Unisaw last weekend $500 for both. I was so bummed I missed them. There’s currently a rough looking 1.5hp Unisaw listed for $450 that’s been there a few weeks and there are always Unisaws in good shape for $850 to $900+ that sit and sit at those prices.

I think a rough but working one in the $400 to $500 range is the norm here. This one looks pretty clean, save for the fact that it’s in pieces and I have no idea and will have no idea if there’s anything missing until it’s too late.

Matt

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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Loren

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#4 posted 03-24-2018 05:55 PM

Unifence uses a proprietary extruded front rail.
Good luck finding one. There were two styles
made.

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#5 posted 03-24-2018 06:36 PM

I’d pass on that thing.. there will always be another one come along, and hopefully in one piece. Not only are they asking too much for a project machine, but there is no telling what might be missing on that machine and it could quickly become a money pit…

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#6 posted 03-24-2018 06:41 PM

Keep looking, the points above are all valid.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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onoitsmatt

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#7 posted 03-24-2018 06:42 PM

Thanks all. Going to pass on this one. Appreciate the feedback.

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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#8 posted 03-24-2018 07:36 PM

Take a stab at this one. I bet he’d take close to $800ish.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#9 posted 03-24-2018 10:08 PM

I went and looked at this, thinking i wanted it for parts, but after review, stepped off, there is on some that come up for sale locally but they are always around 900 to 1k, I keep an eye out as I would like to have another similar to what i have.

if a deal could be made on the part out, wouldn’t be too bad.

good luck with the hunt
Rj

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bondogaposis

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#10 posted 03-25-2018 02:00 AM

He’s asking $600 but there’s room to negotiate.

There would have to be a lot of room. Too much for a disassembled saw, if there is something missing you are going to spend a lot of time tracking down replacements.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#11 posted 03-25-2018 05:10 AM

Know your pain Matt!

Been shopping Craigslist/estate sales for a affordable 3hp 1ph cabinet saw for last 5+ years. AZ is tough market to shop for used wood working machinery. We have tons of retired wood working folks surfing Craigslist, and good tools disappear fast thanks to use of Craigslist alerts.

IME – Any Unisaw in decent running shape that does not have antique tube style Delta fence, and is priced less than $600-650 is sold in minutes after ad is placed. Why?
IMHO – Tool Flipping…
See, a couple weeks or months later the same $500 saw is relisted except this time; top is rust free, it has new paint, maybe new bearings and/or belts, AND price is $900-$1200 or more.
These tool restoration buffs have kept local used Unisaw prices artificially inflated as they are willing to let tools stay listed for several months at higher these prices.
If Unisaw is <$350 and needs loads of parts to restore to usable condition, then it ends up being used as parts machine, with excess being sold on flea bay.
While I can not fault restoration and flip actions, it can be very frustrating when your budget will not let you spend $1000 for cabinet saw.

Having inspected too many Unisaw for sale in AZ, can tell you that a fairly priced Unisaw in working order is sold in less than 3 days. If you see an ad lasting more than 2-3 days, something is wrong. Either price is too high, machine needs major work, or owner is very hard to reach and has limited access to show tool to an already 3-4 people long list of buyers.

Do not get me started on used Powermatic saw pricing. Only reason I learned about local Unisaw pricing is I really want a Powermatic cabinet saw, and have resisted buying a Unisaw for years. Left tilt old US iron is much more desirable to many. They are seldom found in AZ for less than $1000 even if crusty, abused commercial unit with a 3 phase motor. :(
The depressing part is that I constantly find old Powermatic cabinet saws in southern CA that are half price found in AZ (or less), but by time you add cost of having to react instantly to inspect unit 350 miles away, plus transportation home; savings of buying it in CA disappear.

Only solution is patience and perseverance, plus set your own RSS alerts.

Best Luck.

PS – That looks to be fairly clean 34-8XX type I model made in early 1980’s. Without a usable fence+rails, I would not pay more $350, assuming motor can be tested as working. Without proving motor is good, it is $200 pile of parts.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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teejk02

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#12 posted 03-25-2018 11:47 PM

On the plus side, if you bought it and somehow got it back together you would exactly how to maintain it! The owner’s manual would be easier though.

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