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03-15-2018 05:24 PM

Anybody buy the new Saw stop-flip up/down out feed table yet? Thinking of maybe jumping….need opinions.

-- Mike


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#1 posted 03-16-2018 11:58 PM

Glad you asked Mike. I’ve been considering as well.

-- Rick - I know I am not perfect, but I will keep pressing on toward the goal of becoming all I am called to be.

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#2 posted 03-17-2018 12:10 AM

Looks like a good well made item. I’ve got a large assembly table the height of my professional sawstop but if I was looking for an outfeed, that looks like a good one.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#3 posted 03-17-2018 12:31 AM

Realizing I am not commenting on the exact product, but on the basic design:
I love my flip up outfield, but it is a bit different and not a Sawstop product.

My own outfield table attaches to the back edge of the table surface, and extends out about 12”. Then there is a hinged portion, analogous to the sawstop product you mention. Mine is admittedly not a steel frame, it is a melamine extension. Both the short 12 inch fixed table extension and the flip up portion are melamine. When you flip it up there is a fold down leg that supports the larger surface.

I really like this setup, and find that in almost all cases the short fixed extension is all that i need. Having the ability to flip up another 30’ though, is great for certain ripping setups.

If I was using my table saw to break down 4×8 sheets of plywood, I know the bigger outfield surface would be in order. I don’t do that. When I use plywood, I prefer to do the breakdown into parts with my circular saw, and then bring smaller panels to the table saw for fine trimming to dimension.

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#4 posted 03-19-2018 03:47 PM

Thanks guys….It looks a little pricey and I wonder about smaller pieces falling through….

-- Mike

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#5 posted 03-20-2018 06:56 PM

Wow did not know they had that. Looks cool, but I’d think you could build your own with some formica and a simple box construction.

Me I’ve struggled with that and took my work bench and put it on adjustable legs and have it perpen dicular to my saw so it serves two purposes. One as a work bench and second as an outfeed for my TS

If you do get it, do a review. (lots of pics)

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#6 posted 05-01-2018 03:07 AM

Update: I broke down and ordered it…..Its on backorder….Its expected in 30 to 45 days! They are in short supply.

-- Mike

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#7 posted 05-01-2018 12:48 PM

Cool, I’ll be waiting for the review.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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#8 posted 05-08-2018 06:46 PM

I picked it up yesterday, it came sooner than expected. It is a little labor intensive to assemble, but I don’t know how it could be explained any simpler than it was. The instructions are for all the models and an option if you dont have the left side wing…..I guess, that would be for folks with the sliding table.
Obviously after having it less than 24 hours, I can’t speak to all the issues it may or may not have, but I can’t imagine any issues. It is well built, folds up and down with out issue, and is strudy as hell. At first I was hesitant with just the center section being solid, but that is positioned right after the blade and I really can’t imagine if I would need any more. If I ever did feel that I needed more, there appears to be many options for some “self-modifications”. In the center and edge sections there are ball bearing fitted rollers for large stock to slide off when needed.
All in all I am very pleased, I am not sure when I will get to use it, because this is my busy season at my studio and yard work is needed after a looonnnng Iowa winter, but I have very little doubt this was well worth it!

The box for the factory

-- Mike

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#9 posted 05-08-2018 06:56 PM

It was well labeled and packed

Assembly begins

It gets rather heavy so it gets mounted to the saw before its complete

I assembled it in a tight space as the rest of the garage had another project in it and it worked just fine…...
I will do a review in the future after I use it to see what I think.

-- Mike

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#10 posted 08-11-2018 11:56 PM

Mike, how are you liking the out feed table? Is it meeting all your expectations or do you wish you would have built your own version?

Would appreciate an update when you have a chance. Considering the purchase for my ICS. Thanks.

-- Rick - I know I am not perfect, but I will keep pressing on toward the goal of becoming all I am called to be.

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#11 posted 08-13-2018 01:49 AM

Thanks for asking Crack…..
funny that you asked, I was using it today and thinking I never did that review. In my defense I have been doing lathe stuff and home improvement things! In the last couple weeks I have been working on a couple of projects that are TS intensive. So…I’ll get to it:
At first I thought I was gong to have to modify it some to close in the a couple more spaces so things wouldn’t fall through. After using it more, for this project especially, it was kind of a mission style piece with 20 narrow slats. I really don’t think it is necessary to fill in other sections. Nothing even came close to falling through. Now I see that as a non-issue. Also I should mention, I also had some concern initially that the hinges are just put on with set screws, but they are very solid. All in all, I really like it…...it moves with the saw, sets up in seconds, is light, and functions great. It’s a good buy…..go for it!!!

If you need to know anything else, let me know…...

-- Mike

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#12 posted 08-13-2018 02:21 AM

Thanks for the update. All the review that I need to hear. Figure I can build one, but my wife has me covered up for awhile that buying one ready to go would be much better way to go.

Now to use my ‘I want a new tool line’ the next time my wife asks me to build something… “Sorry Honey, wish I could build that for you, but in order to build that I would need (insert tool name here).” LOL

Thanks again. Rick

-- Rick - I know I am not perfect, but I will keep pressing on toward the goal of becoming all I am called to be.

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#13 posted 08-13-2018 03:57 AM

I don’t understand all this fascination with the “Saw Stop” table saws. I’ve worked for 39 years with just about every saw made, not all but close.
I’ve used cheap Taiwanese 1-1/2 hp saws wired for 110v all the way up to a Martin 14” 440v 3 phase. I’ve never come close to cutting myself, I’ve run both index fingers and thumbs within 1/8” from the blade on occasions where I had to.
All the rest of the time I’ve just used good safety measures and common sense.

Are ANY of you that overpaid for your tablesaw, WILLING TO TEST IT WITH YOUR FINGER ???

That’s kind of what I thought ??

Stay away from over tech bullshit, it’s just more crap that can go wrong or break !!

You don’t NEED HI-TECH to be a great woodworker, all you need is the passion !

-- Shaun Ragland

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#14 posted 08-13-2018 04:53 AM

On the topic of the out-feed table. I happened to build my own for my PCS. I don’t think SawStop’s was available then. One advantage to the SawStop I can see is it really can only serve as an out-feed table. I think most of us have suffered from the problem of piling stuff on any horizontal surface we have. With this design, you can’t really do that.


I don t understand all this fascination with the “Saw Stop” table saws. I ve worked for 39 years with just about every saw made, not all but close.
I ve used cheap Taiwanese 1-1/2 hp saws wired for 110v all the way up to a Martin 14” 440v 3 phase. I ve never come close to cutting myself, I ve run both index fingers and thumbs within 1/8” from the blade on occasions where I had to.
All the rest of the time I ve just used good safety measures and common sense.

Are ANY of you that overpaid for your tablesaw, WILLING TO TEST IT WITH YOUR FINGER ???

That s kind of what I thought ??

Stay away from over tech bullshit, it s just more crap that can go wrong or break !!

You don t NEED HI-TECH to be a great woodworker, all you need is the passion !

- Shaun Ragland

Regardless of what you believe, accidents do happen, no matter how careful you try to be. Many people will have entire careers without an accident, others won’t. It’s a probability thing. Just as some chain smokers will live to be 100 years old. That doesn’t mean smoking isn’t bad for you.

You can go through life thinking your perfect, that you are somehow endowed with more common sense than the other guy. That this will ensure you can’t get hurt. Well, it doesn’t work like that. The fact you haven’t had an accident, doesn’t mean you can’t. It takes just one momentary lapse of attention.

If you believe you’ve never taken your eye off the ball while woodworking, you are deluding yourself. Like most of us, when you get sloppy nothing happens. Just as everyone will occasionally make a mistake driving a car. Most of the time nothing happens, but every once in a while the accident happens.

Bottom line, to argue that there’s no reason to have a SawStop is like arguing that you don’t need seat belts or airbags. I know, you only need those things because OTHER drivers will cause the accident, never you. Again, you’re kidding yourself if you believe that.

A SawStop is a form of insurance for a relatively common and very serious table saw accident. For roughly a $500 premium on the cost of a saw, I’ve pretty much eliminated the possibility of seriously cutting myself on my table saw. Spread out over the years I’ll be using the saw, that cost is trivial.

Now, I don’t think someone who chooses not to have SawStop is stupid or taking their life in their hands. It’s a choice, we all have a different situations and views on the costs and benefits of things.

My truck is old enough it doesn’t have anti-lock brakes. I’d be somewhat safer if it did. I don’t feel the need to run out and get a newer truck just because of that. But I also would never argue that it’s tech BS, just because I don’t choose to have it.

And of course you don’t need hi-tech to be a great woodworker. But SawStop tech will virtually guarantee you never cut your fingers off with your table saw. I know that I’ll be a better woodworker if I keep all ten of my fingers.

-- Clin

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#15 posted 08-13-2018 05:15 PM

Crack—
I find the “sure I can make you that….but” way of getting new toys very efficient. I have gotten many new tools with that strategy. My wife is great though and doesn’t care.

Clin—Your post was well written( not sure what relevance that other post was to out feed table anyway) obviously trying to start something. I agree with everything you said. Safety, in my opinion is a mind set….and hopefully we never slip, but if it does happen, a little extra insurance is not a bad thing. It can be a PITA though too…..the same guy that set it off with the side of his hand put a Frued dado that must be a little out if round and had issue with his brake…..I don;t think it set it off but hit and ruined it or something …..not sure…he just mentioned that he ruined his free cartridge. (When you set off your cartridge with a real accident they give you send it in and they give the next one.) I always think it is nice to have a Saw stop but think of the ten other tools I have that don’t, that would do major harm too. My jointer for one, it would not only cut off your finger but grind it into hamburger!
In our little group of friends we had a guy cut off two finger with a kickback on some plywood. It happened on a Friday night so he was flown 120 miles to Mayo. They put his fingers back on, but it didn’t take, so he had to go back 4 weeks later and have them removed. His portion was over 10K. He often remarks he could have had three and a half Saw stops for that price. In the following year three of us that knew him got saw stops, ( we were all looking to get a cabinet saw anyway) including the guy I mentioned above that set his off recently. My local tool store told me a few years ago, its about 9 to 1 in sales…that 9 saw stops to 1 of everything else.
I have no regrets…..

-- Mike

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