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Forum topic by Notw posted 01-16-2018 08:55 PM 1233 views 1 time favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Notw

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01-16-2018 08:55 PM

Recently I went in to buy a dovetail saw and picked a 14 TPI Veritas dovetail saw off the rack, the employee went to the back to get the saw in the box and I didn’t realize until I got home that it was a Veritas crosscut saw and not the dovetail saw.

My question now is if it is worth it or not to try and exchange the saw, I don’t know enough about saw tooth rakes to know if it will make a lot of difference?

The Veritas dovetail saw is 14 rip-cut teeth per inch, 0.003” of set per side, with 14° rake angle and included 60° angle.

The Veritas crosscut saw is 16 tpi filed with alternating bevels, 0.003” of set per side and 15° rake and bevel angles.


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#1 posted 01-16-2018 09:18 PM

If you want a dovetail saw then you should exchange it. But if it feels good in your hands and it cuts straight then keep it for someday you’ll need it. Might even be your guardian Angel looking out for you.:)
Just in case your wondering I have three different Dt saws two fine jointery crosscut.And two full size panel saws and one large tenon rips saw. I’m also a self proclaimed Dovetail master.:)

-- Aj

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#2 posted 01-16-2018 09:31 PM

Assuming your goal is to cut dovetails: get the 14TPI Rip DT saw. Although I have not used one, it has gotten very good reviews for years and I think its the right tool for the job. I’m sure the CC saw is also very good, but its not what you would want for cutting DTs.

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#3 posted 01-16-2018 09:32 PM

The saw size is the big difference IMO. I have both saws but in the 20 tpi Dovetail. The Crosscut and Rip saw are what I’d call bench saws, have yet to use my Rip saw? You probably will want to get the Dovetail version!
Did use my Rip saw to cut some Dovetails for a 2” thick Cedar planter box.
When I cut any Dovetails in thin materials 1/4” to 3/8” I usually use a Japanese saw or a Zona for real small stuff?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#4 posted 01-16-2018 09:37 PM

I’d take it back… there’s a reason they make two different models, even if the specs are very close

-- Matt -- I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam

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#5 posted 01-16-2018 11:09 PM

Go back and buy the DT saw :P Can’t have too many saws!

-- Tyler - Central TX

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Notw

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#6 posted 01-17-2018 12:16 AM

So sounds like I need to exchange it for the dovetail saw then, thanks for all the input

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#7 posted 01-17-2018 09:36 PM

Crosscut teeth don’t do very well when ripping and dovetailing, I’d definitely take it back!

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#8 posted 01-17-2018 10:18 PM



Crosscut teeth don t do very well when ripping and dovetailing, I d definitely take it back!

- AESamuel

I just finished building a dovetail saw. Until last week I cut all of my dovetails with a crosscut tenon saw.
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My dovetails turn out just fine. The dovetail saw is nice to have but I’d be getting a tenon saw first.

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#9 posted 01-18-2018 03:48 AM

You might consider a 16” crosscut panel saw as well.

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#10 posted 01-18-2018 06:30 AM

I’m kinda partial to the dovetail. I use it probably 95% of the time.

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#11 posted 01-19-2018 01:59 AM



I’m kinda partial to the dovetail. I use it probably 95% of the time.

- TheFridge

I Agree. The Dovetail is the one to get.

Rick

-- Richard (Ontario, CANADA)

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Notw

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#12 posted 01-19-2018 08:20 PM

Swapped the saws today, have to wait until this weekend to give it a test drive, thanks for all the input

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