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12-20-2010 05:11 AM

One of the bloggers I follow has an interesting blog which covers the business of woodworking. He has an e-course on making a living in ww and wanted to pass the info along to everyone here who is interested.

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#1 posted 01-01-2011 04:13 PM

Not knocking the course because I haven’t taken it, but the $27 price tag and the typos in the ad make me a bit nervous about what exactly I’d be getting for my 27 dollars. I hope its a great course and he gets a lot of hits on it.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#2 posted 01-01-2011 06:14 PM

If this gut can eat out with a freind for 27 bucks I’d bet he’s pulling in the clients that will slowly starve you to death. You’d be better off doing real research, talk with substancial people who are sucsessful. There are hundreds of guys on this web site who if you asked to meet with them they might be willing to give you an hour or two of there time. Oh, and if you take a fellow lumber jock out to eat….it should cost more than 27 bucks
no Mc Donalds lunches!!!! LOL :)

-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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#3 posted 01-02-2011 06:20 AM

I don’t mind paying for education. I checked out the website and was unable to find any archived information. How long have you been following this blog? Has the info been quality or has it been directed to getting you to purchase advice?

College courses can be spendy so if these are quality business courses directed specifically to the woodworking business, it could be worth it but there are plenty of resources available for free. My approach has been to take formal business courses then supplement those with free info I find on the web. Woodweb has a great business and management section and recently I found a blog that is great called the business of woodwork. Both are free.


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#4 posted 01-29-2011 04:34 AM

I’ve worked with Adam, the person who started this blog, and I can attest the the quality of his work and service. He’s personally helped me on numerous occasions with woodworking-related questions, and has never asked me for anything in return. As his post says, he is genuinely interested in helping people be successful. I think for someone starting a woodworking business, this would be a great and inexpensive resource to invest in. He also hosts a free, weekly online chat session called woodchat that’s open to anyone who wants to participate, learn and share. I’d at least try to learn a little more information about him and his blog/service before making uninformed judgments. God forbid someone try to make a living passing on their expertise to others. Sure, there are lots of resources out there in books and online, but in this day and age of anonymous information, it’s refreshing that someone is interested in giving trustworthy, personalized information.

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#5 posted 01-29-2011 05:07 AM

I haven’t taken the course, but have been following the Adam King Studio for awhile and he seems legitimately interested in helping folks out … the information he’s passed on to me has proven to not only be relevant but very informative and insightful … while I always appreciate free advice … the truth of the matter is that when I started looking into making this a career … I wanted to sit down and talk with someone who had been in the business for awhile … someone who was willing and able to not only answer the questions I did have … but the questions I didn’t even know I had … I started out by asking local professionals … I offered to treat a couple to lunch (as some have suggested) ... and even offered my assistance (help clean up or whatever they needed) just for the chance to get to pick their brain for some information and insight that might help me get up and running … to my surprise … not only were the guys I talked to unwilling to help … most were flat out rude about it (note: none were LJ members that I know of) ... I eventually ended up packing up my things and moving out to CA for two years to get my AA in woodworking technology … and must say the tips and information I’ve received from the Adam King Studio have rivaled any of the guest speakers and workshops I’ve attended over the years … to be honest, I’ve paid more than $27 to attend workshops that weren’t 1/2 as informative as the information I’ve received from Adam for free …

Either way, for those that might be interested … I would suggest contacting Adam yourself if you have any questions …

-- Lip's Dysfuncational Firewood Farm, South Bend, IN

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#6 posted 01-29-2011 05:33 AM

WOW! I can’t believe how much this site has changed. I remember receiving my personal invitation from Martin shortly after it first went live and watched as it grew over the past few years. The one thing that made LumberJocks so great was the open sense of community and open minds of those involved.

Seems lately LumberJocks has become the place you go to tear others down while pretending your “insight” is so much wiser than anyone else.

Why don’t you try doing a little more research on the people you’re so ready to tear down? Just because a website doesn’t have months of archives doesn’t make the author a con-artist. Ever stop to think perhaps all this time they were honing their craft? Ever stop to think they were living, learning and in turn teaching the very subjects you claim they’re now trying to scam everyone with?

Adam King’s background as a craftsman and now teacher is well worth taking a look at. His expertise and understanding of what it takes to start up a woodworking business, something many of us can only hope would happen, is worth more than a meager $27. This program is worth 2-3X’s the price.

But Adam’s desire to help others achieve their dreams, whether it’s to work as their own boss at something they love or to just share a few good woodworking stories is something he’d rather underprice instead of limit it’s access because of a price tag.

If you base the worth of an education, the worth of a tool or the worth of a person on a price tag what does that say about your worth?

-- Straight grains & sharp blades

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#7 posted 01-29-2011 05:35 AM

Just wanted to add my support and endorsement of Adam King. I’ve known him for almost 2 years now and have become good friends in that time. He has done so much to push me out of my lazy comfort zones and get me to honestly pursue my passion, building furniture and tools. Like the other guys mentioned, the amount of help Adam gives woodworkers for free is amazing. I think its great that he has chosen to focus even more on helping woodworkers build a career doing what they love. One of the reasons that he started is because of what he saw missing for most woodworkers who try to do this full time: they lack any knowledge of running a business! Sure, they can make a beautiful dovetailed box, but they can’t market it, can’t find customers, and when they do sell it, they charge so little they should have just given it to their Mom and saved the hassle.
So, yeah, you can get woodworking advice for free anywhere. Great advice, horrid advice, and everything in between, but Adam offers far more than just how to use a chisel properly when opening a paint can. He offers what he personally learned about running a business, much of it the hard way, so that we don’t have to take the hard way ourselves.


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#8 posted 01-29-2011 05:36 AM

Oh, and in case the stick in the muds around here didn’t get it, the using chisels to open paint cans thing was a joke.


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#9 posted 01-29-2011 06:34 AM

The poster just says go here, give this guy $27.00 it’s great, I follow it. The page he sent us to reads like an info-mercial. So what were we supposed to do. Go to this site, do all this research and then what, give this guy our 27 bucs for business enlightenment. The poster could have given some more info to help his blogging buddy. So don’t come on here with your expectations of everyone on this site and tell us we should do more research when the poster could have given us some more info to begin with. I don’t have time to research this guy, but at first glance I would have said this guy is bogus too. How do you know that these guys didn’t do some research and find that your benevolent mentor is still a crock.

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#10 posted 01-29-2011 06:59 AM

Really? It’s that hard to enter the name Adam King into Google? Did you read anything else posted on The Woodworker’s Journey site? Did you happen to check out Adam’s other site, No? Big surprise.
A guy comes on here to share something he is excited about that another woodworker is offering, and all you guys can do is mock him? He never told you to go give Adam your money. He shared something he believed in. I guess he just isn’t elite enough around here to be listened to though.
I now remember why I gave up on Lumberjocks. The woodworking community on Twitter is much more helpful, and much friendlier.


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#11 posted 01-29-2011 07:19 AM

I told you I didn’t. And I should have posted that comment to Matt. I didn’t say this guy was good or bad but just what I saw on that page and what my thought would have been without doing any research. The poster gave very little info, and sends you to his e-course page. Why should I give validity to this guys advice or info if he isn’t willing to give any background or any real info himself. This guy gives a crap review and no info on this guy and then others give their thought and we are the bad guys. If the poster really thought highly of this guy then give a little more info and make it worth my time to research him. And, if you hate this site so much than get off of it.

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#12 posted 01-29-2011 07:30 AM

I know i’m just going to PO someone but his site looks really proffesional and he seems produces a lot of nice furniture.

-- Anthony

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#13 posted 01-29-2011 08:03 AM

I looked at his site and it does look like an infomercial site….which is good marketing.

If a person wants to make money with their woodwork they must know how to market and sell as well as being a top notch woodworker. Most infomercial sites are put together by someone who most likely does not spend countless hours crafting what they are marketing…they do it just to make a buck. So when I see someone passionate about their woodworking …I respect them and don’t usually classify them with the generic informercials for put together by non-craftsmen…unless they show themselves to be other than sincere.
I have always done things to improve my woodworking and marketing skills.. and most certainly spent money in the process. $27 ain’t nothing to hopefully learn something..and I also noticed a ”money back guarantee” if not satisfied..

By the way, I do not know Adam and this is the first time I have seen his website and promotion.

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#14 posted 01-29-2011 08:31 AM

You know I just get PO when someone doesn’t take anytime to state any info and then sends me off on a goose chase to do my own research. If the guy was really promoting this guy I would have taken the time to dig a little deeper. I would have spent ten minutes reading his thoughts on “Adam”. This was a crap post and then the guys that say that get persecuted. I certainly have paid a lot more for a lot less. Come on Sparky and Matt the guy didn’t even say the bloggers name. He didn’t even give a reason for me to go to the site.
I blame Mark for bringing this post back. J/K Mark, I like that you go back and try to answer or give some sort of feedback on silent threads. Keep it up.

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#15 posted 01-29-2011 09:40 AM

I’ve been waiting for a reply on this one as I am currently looking to take some more business classes. Thanks to all that provided info on the instructor.


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