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jtrz

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05-08-2017 02:37 PM

I’ve got two table saws I’m looking at on Craigslist and could use some of your sage advice.

One is a Ryobi BT3000 for $200
https://louisville.craigslist.org/tls/6104567526.html

Other is Craftsman 10” Model 113.298240 for $50
https://louisville.craigslist.org/tls/6121369891.html

I would rather just spend $50 for the Craftsman if it is a decent machine but if the Ryobi is really worth $200 I would definitely consider it.

Comments on either saws quality? Which would you buy?

Any advice would be great. Thanks

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky


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toolie

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#1 posted 05-08-2017 02:41 PM

Craftsman all the way. 10” CI left tilt vs an aluminum right tilt ryobi makes for no contest. Get a t2 fence for the cman, slap a good blade on it, align blade to miter slot, align fence to same miter slot and start making sawdust!

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#2 posted 05-08-2017 02:47 PM

I saw that CF on CL. People often want $300 or more. I think $150 is a decent price for one in good shape. That one will take some cleanup, but if it works, $50 is a steal.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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jtrz

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#3 posted 05-08-2017 03:00 PM

Thanks for the quick response.

Any advice on what I should check on the saw when I go to look at it? Things that would be deal breakers?

Bought a cheap craftsman table saw a few months ago and I tried to do some fixing and refurbishing but it just isn’t worth it. Wish I had been more careful examining it when I bought it.

Thanks

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#4 posted 05-08-2017 03:52 PM

Check:
Does the motor start and run smoothly? (The motor)
Does the blade turn without weird noises or wobble? (The arbor)
Are the tables in decent shape and relatively flat? (The tables)

Other than those things, everything else can be easily fixed or replaced. Don’t let a little rust on the tables scare you away, but also don’t buy a rust bucket.

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#5 posted 05-08-2017 04:07 PM

I’ve had the Craftsman for over 30 years and it has always done what I wanted. I had to replace the motor many years ago and put a 1 1/2 hp, along with a linked drive belt, on it and it has handled up to 12/4 hardwoods nicely. Alignment of the fence has been the biggest issue but far from being a major issue. Have both a decent crosscut/combination blade and a rip blade available.

-- Marty O'C

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#6 posted 05-09-2017 04:50 PM

I have had my Ryobi for over 20 years, and am extremely happy with it. I use the router with it too. Many many projects have come off of it.

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#7 posted 05-09-2017 09:03 PM

I just bought a 113 model craftsman with a sliding miter extension off CL for $75. I have been putting some work into it (cleaning and lubing the internals and cleaning rust off the top). So far I am happy with it. I have heard that you can replace the arbor and motor pulleys to machined pulleys from In-Line Industries but I haven’t gotten that far yet.

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#8 posted 05-09-2017 09:08 PM

Ryobi? NO!
Bill

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#9 posted 05-09-2017 09:10 PM

I’ve long been and advocate of the 113 model, I had one many years ago, outfitted it with a Biesemeyer fence and away I went. It would cut just about everything I threw at it….even Osage Orange(I lived in Missouri, at the time) Good blade, good fence, and the In-Line Industries accessories can turn it into a solid saw at a budget price….allowing you to spend more money on other tools.

IMO, the BT3000 has a place, too. I would use that saw for an onsite tool any day of the week.

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#10 posted 05-10-2017 02:31 AM

The BT 3000 is actually a very capable saw. I used the BT 3100 for 2 or 3 years. It’s the only 10” saw I know that will cut a 4×4 in one pass. Quite flexible and adaptable, but of course it has a screamer of a motor (universal). They are light enough to be quite portable, if that matters to you. I would put them up against any of the job site saws. Do not compare this model to the el cheap Ryobis at the Depot. Those are less than stellar (to put a mild spin on it). About as bad as any of the other saws of that ilk. No better, no worse.

There is actually an enthusiastic users’ group. I suggest you google them and see what they have to say.

The BT has a 13 amp motor, the BT 3100 has 15 amps. The only difference I’m aware of.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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jtrz

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#11 posted 05-10-2017 04:44 AM

Yeah the Craftsman has already sold. It got listed at night and they sold it in the morning. Must have been early too. $50 was too good to pass up I guess.

I’ve read some mixed reviews about the BT3000. Some people really like it and some people don’t. It seems that the motor is super loud. Hopefully, it won’t upset my roommate. I just wonder if $200 is a fair price.

Any thoughts on the price or other thoughts on the BT 3000?

Thanks

-- Jeff | Louisville, Ky

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#12 posted 05-10-2017 05:07 AM

Well, it is loud, but no louder than other TSs with universal motors. If you get it, do use thin kerf blades.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#13 posted 05-10-2017 05:17 AM

They aren’t just louder… they also cannot take any kind of sustained use without self-destructing. Perfectly fine for occasional and light use, typical in a homeowner or hobby environment though – as long as you let it cool down between cuts to avoid warping the plastic motor housing.

Unless you absolutely need something super-portable, I would try to find something with a real induction motor.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#14 posted 05-10-2017 09:35 AM

The 113 has a much larger table surface, especially in front of the blade. I prefer the heavier cast iron surface and belt drive induction motor, and think they have good potential for growth. The stock steel fence on most 113s is lame, and is a good candidate for replacement, so keep that in mind with the overall budget. The BT has a better fence and a riving knife, but is a smaller lighter saw.

This Crafstman has an upgraded fence…..$300 is high, but could be a nice deal closer to $200ish.
https://louisville.craigslist.org/tls/6090006390.html

This one could be worth a call to get a picture:
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/wan/6096198129.html

Nice deal if it’s within driving distance of you:
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/6121347883.html

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#15 posted 05-10-2017 11:21 AM

I have used the BT3000 for 25 years and it has been a great and versatile saw. The fence is surprisingly good, the sliding table works well and I have my router mounted in it (it makes a great router table; I built a large fence that fits over the Ryobi fence). You can tune this saw to be very accurate. It cost about 500.00 25 years go! That saw looks in good condition and would be worth 200 although I would offer less. I don’t understand why Ryobi stopped making this saw and why no one copied it.

-- David, Kentucky

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