Big Daddy or Whiteside Ultimate router bit

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Forum topic by ScaryDull posted 04-27-2017 11:03 PM 5716 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-27-2017 11:03 PM

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I need a large pattern bit – and I’m looking at either the Big Daddy bit from William Ng or Whiteside’s Ultimate compression pattern bit.
The Big daddy is massive – but high speed steel from what I’ve heard – the whiteside bit is a compression (up cut and down cut) bit of solide carbide – but it’s (comparatively) smaller – cutter height 1 1/8” vs. 2”

Any thoughts or experiences?

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#1 posted 04-27-2017 11:05 PM

For cutters, I’d take good carbide over good steel any day.

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#2 posted 04-27-2017 11:17 PM

What are you cutting … material and thickness?
Are you planning to ride the bearing along the template mounted above or below the work piece?

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#3 posted 04-28-2017 12:08 AM

Big Daddy Pattern Bit!

Custom router bit made of cobalt, 1/2″ shaft, 1-1/8″ diameter, 2″ cutting length, 6 flute spiral, 3/8″ bearing, overall height is around 4-1/2″. We recommend using a router speed of 13,000 rpm with this bit. With 6 flutes, the cutters comes around very quickly. Remember to always use a blade guard. Smooth cuts every time, with or against the grain.

Combine this with our big daddy dust hood and guard.
Around 145.00

Around 165.00

That’s a tough call as I’ve never used a cobalt router bit and William Ng doesn’t sell lower end products.

I’d go with Whiteside as I’ve had great results with them:

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#4 posted 04-28-2017 01:10 AM

To my way of thinking Whiteside is the only game in town.

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#5 posted 04-28-2017 08:02 PM

I’m primarily going to use it on hardwoods – often not thicker than 1” – but I’m hoping I can use it for wider material also – so with the whiteside bit (the one with the bearing closest to the router) I hope you can take on thicker material with a second pass.

I think the larger Big Daddy (nice name) has it advantages in a wider diameter and ability to taker thicker material in one pass. Whereas the Whiteside is solide carbide and a compression bit.
I’ve had really good results with Whiteside so far, so I’m probably leaning that way.

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#6 posted 04-28-2017 08:40 PM

FYI, best pricing on Whiteside bits is on this site. I’ve ordered twice and my stuff showed up the next day.

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#7 posted 04-29-2017 08:20 PM

Thanks for the help.

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#8 posted 02-12-2019 01:48 AM

I know this conversation is 2 years old, been woodworking for 18 years now, used the Big Daddy pattern bit for the first time, loved it so much better. They been using it for years at Cerritos College woodworking school for years now, was originally designed by a former instructor at Cerritos College

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#9 posted 02-12-2019 02:33 AM

Here’s a link to the Whiteside catalog. You can also request a Whiteside catalogue. In get mine from Wood Stock Supply The template Bits #3023, 2” cutting length.

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