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02-03-2008 04:53 PM

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Firstly, I want to thank everyone for their comments on my projects.
Secondly, regarding the lathe bench. I said that the plans came from Wood magazine, they didn’t.
They are actually from Shop Notes Vol.2 Issue 10.
Now, for the title of this topic.
I had a couple of comments about talent on this site and why would that person bother to try.
I look at Ryan Shervill’s 2×4 table and am blown away. Anyone that has used a spruce 2×4 knows what an accomplishment he has achieved, but it didn’t make me say why bother. You work to your strenghts. Your strenghts come from practice and the desire to accomplish those thinmgs you haven’t tried before.
The truck was my first attempt with Toys & Joys plans. That was practice for the rolling stock. The rolling stock was practice for the locomotive. Yes, I am familiar with most of my tools, again practice.
What am I saying? Please don’t say why bother. Instead say “I would like to try that”.
Obviously you have choose to try it at a level consistant with your tools and desires. I personally will not be trying to steam bend a spruce 2×4, but rather than because I’ve never done it before, but because I don’t have the desire.

-- If we learn from our mistakes, I'm getting a fantastic education.

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#1 posted 02-03-2008 05:08 PM

Very well said Woody.

-- Brian, Ontario Canada,

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#2 posted 02-03-2008 06:17 PM

I agree with what you said MrWoody. I have often said that we learn more from our mistakes than from our successes. If we don’t try then obviously we do not make mistakes but this “safe route” does not let us grow and expand our abilities either. That is the real goal in not only woodworking, but in life in general.

It is difficult to try something new because of our level of discomfort. But with practice comes improvement and ultimately success, however we define it for ourselves.

So many tools, so many new techniques and discliplines- After seeing the post that you and others have put out I want to try them all.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#3 posted 02-03-2008 06:20 PM

agreed :)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (, Young Living Wellness )

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#4 posted 02-03-2008 06:45 PM

Amen. Preach it, Brother. Through this site there are opportunities to see a wide variety of skills and techniques and the real joy is being able to pick and choose which I like and want to learn. Ain’t nobody here telling anyone “go away you’re not good enough”, instead they’re all saying, “come on along, we’re here to help.”

-- Working at Woodworking

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#5 posted 02-03-2008 06:58 PM

this is the place where I am awed…not dismayed…I love the fact that there is sssoooo much to learn…and we learn when we are inspired…I have a looooooong way to go…but I also know I will get better…I love the fact that we have Pro’s, hobbiests and new guys like me that barely knew how to use a screwdriver when we started…I actually get out in the shop more often and this “hobby” has become more then me…I want to share while I learn…

-- Matt--Proud LJ since 2007

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#6 posted 02-03-2008 08:35 PM

Well said MrWoody, in my woodworking career I did a lot of things that some said couldn’t be done. I did it only because no one told me I couldn’t. Had I been told that it couldn’t be done before I did it I may have given up thinking they were right.

-- The older I get, the better I was.

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#7 posted 02-07-2008 02:17 PM

Hello MrWoody,

Ryan’s project is a perfect example of what can be done when one puts his/her mind to it and lets the creative juices flow.
I think the important thing here to remember is that, we as woodworkers are all on the same road to discovery; we are just travelling in different lanes to get to the same destination.

Beauty has always been in the eye of the beholder and like all woodworking projects, one should look to them for inspiration and motivation not as unattainable. Be encouraged by the work of others not discouraged into giving up.

All the best

-- Informing & Inspiring Today’s Woodworkers:

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#8 posted 02-07-2008 06:05 PM

I absolutely agree Gord :). I am consistantly awestruck by other’s work, and find myself asking “How did they do THAT?!?” pretty much daily….which generally leads to “How can I do that?”...which leads to “Can I do that differently?”

The 2X4 table was a product of what I call “Geurilla Woodworking” plan, no tape measure, just an idea and a chunk of wood, built completely by “feel”. In fact, until it came to the angles for the top pieces, numbers never came into the equation.

Every woodworker has different skill-sets and vision, and the wonderfull part about the WW’ing community is that you can draw on those attrributes and utilize them to improve your work…....and an almost unhealthy level of stubborness doesn’t hurt either ;)

Cheers everyone,


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#9 posted 02-07-2008 06:56 PM

So I take it we ALL agree that we shouldn’t say why bother.
Rather let’s give it a go, if the first doesn’t work the next one will.
Thanks guys for all the comments.

-- If we learn from our mistakes, I'm getting a fantastic education.

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#10 posted 02-07-2008 07:05 PM

Hi MrWoody,

Yep, you nailed it. Now let’s get at it.

All the best

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#11 posted 02-07-2008 09:51 PM

I completly agree folks and like I tell my kids….never fear trying something….some of the greatest works, greatest inventions came from people who weren’t even trying to get what the ended up with, and didn’t know they even had that talent. Never fear, try new things, and you never know :>) Besides if we all made the same square boxes how boring would that be???? Yuck! We don’t do this because we bother with it…we do it because we love to create beautiful things with wood….{SMILE}

-- Jim Hallada, Chesterfield, VA

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#12 posted 02-07-2008 10:38 PM

I had to go look at your project history to try and figure this all out. I think you’re referring to “RonH’s” comment over your locomotive…I would take that as a compliment in a way, but I guess it could’ve been worded better. I think he’s not going to bother to try, because he’ll never equal your caliber…but you really don’t know what you can do until you do try. I’ll probably never need to steam bend a 2×4 either, but it’s cool that now I know how!

By the way, I really like your work! Keep it up! Someday I might need to build a train and it’s nice knowing I can look you up for advice!

-- Make Woodworking Great Again!

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#13 posted 02-07-2008 11:14 PM

I agree totally. Sometime when I enter a piece into a contest. I wait until the end, because I want everyone to get the juices flowing and not see mine or someone else’s and say well that’s better than mine so I’m not going to enter.

These contests are for everyone. do you best and keep practising. It’s all in good fun anyway. We are now getting some nice prizes. The first one was a t-shirt so we have come a long way Baby.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Appomattox Virginia [email protected]

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#14 posted 02-08-2008 12:15 AM

Dadoo, I took RonH’s comment as a compliment, but I’ve heard “I could never do that” more times than I can count.
When I started woodworking I used butt joints on sheet goods and nailed moldings to cover the edges.
That was a long time ago. I feel anyone can learn the skillls, so they too can hear “I could never do that”. ALL it takes is the desire to learn new skills and practice, practice.
Karson, ask away. )

-- If we learn from our mistakes, I'm getting a fantastic education.

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#15 posted 02-08-2008 12:21 AM

Challenge yourself. The only way that you’ll know your true limitations is by giving up. By challenging yourself, you never know what you’ll achieve.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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