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Mark Shymanski

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02-22-2017 03:42 AM

Topic tags/keywords: humour fcaw joinery joining woodburning

So I’ve been reading and watching videos about all these new fangled machines to do joinery. “The joints will be stronger than the pieces your joining” or other such promises had my curiosity up so I thought hey I’ll give it a go. I just can’t get the machine to do anything like the videos. Any advice

Maybe I just need to crank the power up and slow my feed rate down ;-)

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2


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#1 posted 02-22-2017 03:52 AM

Try feeding in reverse. ;o)

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#2 posted 02-22-2017 03:53 AM

Ha… I’ve got one of those… didn’t know they were for wood. To think, I’ve been using it on metal all this time. So stupid of me.

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#3 posted 02-22-2017 03:53 AM

Are you using titebond wire?

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#4 posted 02-22-2017 04:17 AM

You didn’t read the instructions, those mig guns are the best for holding wood pieces together. You tighten the clamps as tight as you possibly can holding the wood pieces together. Then the mig will lock the clamps so the joints can’t ever come apart. And the sparks clean up any saw dust in the shop so You don’t even need to sweep the floor at the end of your project. ;-)

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#5 posted 02-22-2017 05:08 AM

I knew I could count on my fellow Lumberjocks!

I will try the tightbond wire in reverse! COTL now that you mention it there did seem to be a lot of metal in those videos :-) I’ll try locking those clamps papadan fortunately my garage floor is so soaked from snow-melt I couldn’t get gasoline to burn in there LOL!

I’d just picked up a used Lincoln Electric 140C and was having a bit of fun with it when I, to keep the clamp off the wet floor , clamped the plywood I was using as my work table and then thought it’d make a good picture.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#6 posted 02-22-2017 05:16 AM

Mark, you lucky dog you. It’s February and freezing outside. You can take off one shoe and sock and that wet floor will help keep you warm and fuzzy all over, every time you lock one of those clamps with that new jointer system you have. ;-0

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#7 posted 02-22-2017 05:18 AM

You’re using the wrong wood. Try ironwood instead.

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#8 posted 02-22-2017 06:44 AM

Looks like you were trying to create a Celtic knot in the blue power cord near the top of the photo, but didn’t plug it back in. Once you get that sorted out, your joint should come out like this one . . .

I think Bob might have a good suggestion there.
Waiting to see what you produce with your new tool. It should be interesting.

-- John, British Columbia, Canada

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#9 posted 02-22-2017 11:22 AM

Pre heat and post heat need to keep the moisture out

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#10 posted 02-22-2017 01:21 PM

Hi Mark,
I see your problem, you should be using a “stick” welder if you are trying to join boards. . .Marc

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#11 posted 02-22-2017 05:23 PM

Enjoyed your commentary and picture. We used a wood welder during lab activities to simulate production runs.

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#12 posted 02-22-2017 05:45 PM

Obviously you didn’t change the polarity when you switched from flux core to solid core. That would explain all the splatter on the board. And your wood is not properly grounded.

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#13 posted 02-22-2017 09:28 PM

Man I am learning soooo much about joinery! The ‘stick’ welding was a particularily punful lesson :-) I tried the preheating thing but all I got was a lot of smoke and no more board to work with but just a bunch of powdery grey stuff, maybe my heat is too high. Should I switch to gas shielding with the ironwood?

Wuddoc where do you do the simulations?

I think I have a line on a whole bunch of this metal stuff that COTL uses, I think I’ll give that a try….I hope my scroll saw can cut it!

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#14 posted 02-22-2017 11:14 PM

Sorry Mark, scroll saw blades are just too small. Jig saw is what you need for sure.

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#15 posted 02-22-2017 11:16 PM



You didn t read the instructions, those mig guns are the best for holding wood pieces together. You tighten the clamps as tight as you possibly can holding the wood pieces together. Then the mig will lock the clamps so the joints can t ever come apart. And the sparks clean up any saw dust in the shop so You don t even need to sweep the floor at the end of your project. ;-)

- papadan

Honestly, I think this would actually look pretty cool. I might hit up junk stores for some rusty old C-clamps and try it out.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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