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Forum topic by Pimzedd posted 09-13-2010 12:43 AM 3066 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-13-2010 12:43 AM

I was surfing the net and came across another woodworking forum. Someone had posted this hand plane on Ebay. The question on that forum was similar to mine.

Ebay says the listing has ended. If you go to the link and scroll down, you can see the plane description. Two blades, what a deal! The statement ”We will ship worldwide EXCEPT Italy, Nigeria, Vietnam, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, India, China, Hong Kong, Macau” is puzzling. Wonder why those countries?

I guess they sold all of them. Too bad for all of us that would want one!

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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#1 posted 09-13-2010 12:54 AM

Something smells fishy here. $20.09 and free shipping from Hong Kong.

I don’t know what is going on, but I know I would stay clear.

One could buy a blade and make your own wooden plane and I am sure you would be much better off.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#2 posted 09-13-2010 01:37 AM

Those countries because paypal and internet scams are rampant out of them. Pretty ironic because it’s shipping out of one of them. Guess they know what’s really going on..

There’s another woodworking forum?!?

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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#3 posted 09-13-2010 02:21 AM

There is nothing wrong with this picture. It seems that you guys are not used to deal with chinese companies in eBay. The thing goes like this:

a) It’s a (Chinese style) factory second. AKA reject. It is clearly stated in the text. No original package and, most probably, with some defects… which, for a Chinese product, is already setting the bar quite low, if you ask me.

b) They do ship free to the ole USA but charge $2.50 to Japan that, ironically, is just a 3 h fly away from them in HK. This happens because they buy bulk shipping costs to the countries they sell the most stuff (i.e. USA)

c) There are no two blades. Get used to “Chinglish”, guys. That is just a (very) bad translation for an iron and a chip breaker. Keep in mind that they are not a woodworking company and know as much about handplanes as they do about digital cameras.

d) As stated above, some of the reasons they don’t ship to certain countries like Nigeria are because of the scams (Duh! Nigerian Heirs anyone?) but other places like Italy are famous for having such stringent customs agencies that you would be hard pressed to find any company that wants to ship them anything from overseas. Everything gets delayed and or held off at customs, plenty of things get confiscated or returned by them.Too risky.

I know it is not evident in a first read but you got to learn the lingo (or the quirks) when trying to get cheap stuff from these places.

Hope it helps.

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#4 posted 09-13-2010 02:43 AM

I completely agree with the previous poster. In my work I regularly encounter people who have purchased products that are advertised on eBay, originate in Hong Kong selling for very low prices. In every case I’ve seen, the product was extremely cheaply made, in many cases not functional at all, and generally pretty much worthless. In some cases the vendor does have a return policy but if you look at the fine print, the costs of the return will usually exceed the purchase price for the product. In other cases there are no returns, everything is sold as-is. Be careful with these vendors! As the old saying goes … You get what you pay for. In these cases even less so.

-- Jim in Langley BC Canada ---

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#5 posted 09-13-2010 03:06 AM

ok, I’ll address this in a different light than prev. posters – I’ll go literally – what’s wrong with that picture- the chipbreaker should be on the opposite side of the blade on a handplane that uses a chipbreaker (bevel down) but since this is a hong kong handplane – its a bevel up, and it doesn’t usually have a chip breaker to begin with – so to me that’s the most puzzling thing of all with this post (hand plane sale post that is).

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#6 posted 09-13-2010 03:21 AM

Speaking from my experience with Indian postal service, packages go missing all the time. Courier service is expensive and added to all this, customs is another place to get robbed.

The famous Hope Diamond postal delivery is never gonna happen in most countries :)

-- Praki, Aspiring Woodworker

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#7 posted 09-13-2010 03:32 AM

Actually PurpLev, every Chinese plane I ever saw was bevel down. Most old Chinese planes have American or British made double irons. Every one I ever had in my hands had US or British irons. They just installed everything backwards in the photos. It’s no wonder they don’t show any shavings with the plane in use, it won’t work that way.

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#8 posted 09-13-2010 03:37 AM

hmm… I’ll have to recheck mine. It agree now that I think of it – it’s bevel down, but it definitely does not come with a chip breaker – as the wooden wedge acts as one.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#9 posted 09-13-2010 04:16 AM

Actually PurpLev, all the Japanese planes I’ve seen (physically very similar to the Chinese ones, although we pull ours) are bevel-down and use a chip breaker. The wedge just holds the assembly in place but the chip breaker… well, it breaks the shavings and directs them.

Our planes though don’t usually have the wedge and the chip breaker acts as one against the metal rod.

It is obvious they mounted the thing upside down. In fact, you can see that the wedge has a V-shaped cut to accommodate the iron assembly screw so it is intended to be facing the opposite way.

Now imagine the level of flatness and sharpness you can expect out of the thingie!


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