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Just picked up a STALLION 1.5 HP 10″ CABINET SAW W/30 fence

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I've been working with my Ridgid r4513 job site saw for a few months and have realized it's limitations so I'm taking a chance on this new kid on the block.

Stallion CWI-T1002

I'll make a review and maybe a Youtube vid of this saw in a few months after I've tested it. Of course I'm a novice woodworker so you'll have to keep things in perspective.

This is my most recent finish, a modified Matthias Wandel work bench with drawers, MDF top, made from construction lumber and C2 imperfect birch plywood drawer faces. Slides are scrap plywood 5/8"

Any suggestions as to the stain or oil to finish for with? I was thinking tongue oil… what do you think?

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#4 · (Edited by Moderator)
Ok, I feel cheated now… the title said something about a saw, yet all we got was a picture of a bench and a question about what stain to use. That's like making the title of a post "Nude Pictures" and then showing a picture of a 1972 VW beetle and asking what kind of paint to use ;-O

Cheers,
Brad
 
#11 ·
Iron trunnion. Shipping weight pretty heavy. Looks like may be the same as their 3 HP. Also a good price, so maybe a real find.

Normally I download their manual and parts diagram, but they do not have them on their site. ( Small red flag) One can see a lot about the design and what other saws share the same trunnion. We think of cabinet saws being 3 HP or more, but there are quite a few big machines fitted with the smaller motors. Powermatic, Harvey, and maybe Stallion. Looks like the slide way trunnion as opposed to pivot. Keep us informed.

Never heard of CWI, but like all brands, no one has their own factory, they bid design and manufacturing from the same small set of OEMs. Function, reliability and quality are what is specified. Their band saws look competitive too. Drill press with 6 inch stroke. A line I want to know about. Quality of bearings, precision of machining, motors etc. Never had any of their products show up in a search, yet they say they have been in business 45 years. Looking carefully at their 3 HP cyclone DC.

Please, when you gat a chance, measure from front of blade to the front edge of the table. Some, like the Laguna, are very short.
 
#12 ·
Found some reviews going back to 2016. Looks like just buying low price spec and not their own designs. I hope not, but sounds like HF level quality.

Actually, says their management has 47 years experience. Looks like they have been an importer for only a few.
 
#14 · (Edited by Moderator)
Don't know squat about them, but that sure is pretty. You aren't going to do something silly with it, are you? Things like get it all dusty with saw dust and such?

A second on something like Penofin rather than pure tung oil, which, unmodified, is a poor, stand alone, protective finish.

You could just use an oil based finish and start by thinning it, say, 30% to get deep penetration. If I wanted ultimate protection, I'd keep adding, throughout a long day, wherever it soaked in. Then I'd let it do its hardening thing. I might switch to about 15% and see how that did, limiting how much surface coat I built up, for abuse purposes (a thick, built up film will show abuse more).
 
#16 ·
Looks like 2K for a hybrid saw? Or am I missing something? Grizzly G0771Z has that covered for 995. Not to mention a LOT more years importing, and doing aftercare.

Hope it all works out for you.

- therealSteveN
Op. in Canada, border closed, unless you fly:) A while back the Grizzly would make sense, I made more than a few trips to Bellingham, even if the border was open not sure I'd go there now and not only because of the
$ exchange :)
 
#17 ·
Iron trunnion. Shipping weight pretty heavy. Looks like may be the same as their 3 HP. Also a good price, so maybe a real find.

Normally I download their manual and parts diagram, but they do not have them on their site. ( Small red flag) One can see a lot about the design and what other saws share the same trunnion. We think of cabinet saws being 3 HP or more, but there are quite a few big machines fitted with the smaller motors. Powermatic, Harvey, and maybe Stallion. Looks like the slide way trunnion as opposed to pivot. Keep us informed.

Never heard of CWI, but like all brands, no one has their own factory, they bid design and manufacturing from the same small set of OEMs. Function, reliability and quality are what is specified. Their band saws look competitive too. Drill press with 6 inch stroke. A line I want to know about. Quality of bearings, precision of machining, motors etc. Never had any of their products show up in a search, yet they say they have been in business 45 years. Looking carefully at their 3 HP cyclone DC.

Please, when you gat a chance, measure from front of blade to the front edge of the table. Some, like the Laguna, are very short.

- tvrgeek
Iron trunnion. Shipping weight pretty heavy. Looks like may be the same as their 3 HP. Also a good price, so maybe a real find.

Normally I download their manual and parts diagram, but they do not have them on their site. ( Small red flag) One can see a lot about the design and what other saws share the same trunnion. We think of cabinet saws being 3 HP or more, but there are quite a few big machines fitted with the smaller motors. Powermatic, Harvey, and maybe Stallion. Looks like the slide way trunnion as opposed to pivot. Keep us informed.

Never heard of CWI, but like all brands, no one has their own factory, they bid design and manufacturing from the same small set of OEMs. Function, reliability and quality are what is specified. Their band saws look competitive too. Drill press with 6 inch stroke. A line I want to know about. Quality of bearings, precision of machining, motors etc. Never had any of their products show up in a search, yet they say they have been in business 45 years. Looking carefully at their 3 HP cyclone DC.

Please, when you gat a chance, measure from front of blade to the front edge of the table. Some, like the Laguna, are very short.

- tvrgeek
It measures 10 in he's infront t the blade
 
#19 ·
Hi Guys, Sorry been off the forum for a while, few years LOL… This Stallion saw is still in my shop and working well. It's all the power I need for hobby woodworking, I was re-sawing some hardwood from old pallets and more power would have been nice in this application but with a sharp blade, it was no big deal. The fence is excellent, it's accurate and easy to use, for micro-adjustments I use the hand bump method.

My biggest issue with this machine:
Soon after buying it, the front hand crank (blade elevation) got stiff, very stiff. I cleaned it out applied a WD40 Dry lube to the worm gears and parts, nice and smooth again. but after a good day of use… stiff as F@#k again.

These elevation gears and parts are prone to jamming up quickly and it is annoying. I don't know if this is common, and what is to be expected from a hybrid saw but it's the only thing I don't like about this machine. I'm not switching now, I'm stuck with it. I have tried various trial remedies but nothing seems to work. Regular cleaning and vacuuming of the worm gears and rising posts are required for smooth operation. I would say after every use for best performance.

Other than that I recommend this saw, If I was to buy another saw, I would be looking at this aspect of the saw closely before buying.
 
#20 ·
10 inches. Well better than Laguna but pretty short. Has it ever bothered you?

My Ridged tilt worm gets a little stiff, but not elevation. Are the gears cleanly machined?
Don't know about WD-40 brand dry lube. I use Boeing T-9, but it is not for high friction/pressure use. My gears and worms get the high pressure grease I use on Triumph half shafts.

Yes they told me it is the same spec as a general international 220. But with a fence upgrade. Also looks like a motor down grade as it is a lower insulation class motor. Also a mechanical switch not a magnetic one

Typical places to scrimp.
- 75c
 
#21 ·
Hi Guys, Sorry been off the forum for a while, few years LOL… This Stallion saw is still in my shop and working well. It s all the power I need for hobby woodworking, I was re-sawing some hardwood from old pallets and more power would have been nice in this application but with a sharp blade, it was no big deal. The fence is excellent, it s accurate and easy to use, for micro-adjustments I use the hand bump method.

My biggest issue with this machine:
Soon after buying it, the front hand crank (blade elevation) got stiff, very stiff. I cleaned it out applied a WD40 Dry lube to the worm gears and parts, nice and smooth again. but after a good day of use… stiff as F@#k again.

These elevation gears and parts are prone to jamming up quickly and it is annoying. I don t know if this is common, and what is to be expected from a hybrid saw but it s the only thing I don t like about this machine. I m not switching now, I m stuck with it. I have tried various trial remedies but nothing seems to work. Regular cleaning and vacuuming of the worm gears and rising posts are required for smooth operation. I would say after every use for best performance.

Other than that I recommend this saw, If I was to buy another saw, I would be looking at this aspect of the saw closely before buying.

- Lt_scout
 
#22 ·
Thank you for you answer! I bought one the other day til my new shop is finished that will have way more power available in it. I don't have a 22 circuit in the present shop or enough wire to put one in. This is a new to me house and I need to get a better shop built for my old wood tool machine s. So I wondered if this machine had given you good service and sounds like it has so likely I may keep it or may instead of selling it after the new shop is done. Thanks for the information. Thinking about your dust build up problem what do you have for a dust collector hooked up to your saw? At the moment I but a little one horse one on this saw. The new shop will have my three horse blower set up on it but I have wondered if I might get in trouble from to small of dust system. I had a way better setup at my old place. There again the Small dust collector was bought to make things work without using much power. Lol the dust collector and the saw basically use all the power I have available in there at the moment
 
#23 ·
You'll enjoy this saw, its a nice one. I have a cheap single bag 1HP dust collector hooked up to it. I too only have 110 hookups. The DC could be better but I don't think this is the issue. The dust build-up for elevation is upfront and up high under the table. It just gets jammed up there. My woodworking hobby is off and on and it does the job. I built an outfeed table, side extensions, and tilting router table on the right for mine. It's great. Enjoy!!
 
#24 ·
You ll enjoy this saw, its a nice one. I have a cheap single bag 1HP dust collector hooked up to it. I too only have 110 hookups. The DC could be better but I don t think this is the issue. The dust build-up for elevation is upfront and up high under the table. It just gets jammed up there. My woodworking hobby is off and on and it does the job. I built an outfeed table, side extensions, and tilting router table on the right for mine. It s great. Enjoy!!

- Lt_scout
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Thank you. I will watch and now know what to look for. Thank you.

I have an Extra solid maple door I thought I would make an out feed table from. So it would be 36 inches long or should I say 36 inches deeper of table. Also I will cut the extra to fit in the hole between the rails right side of the blade. Lol that should look neat and I basically paid nothing for the new door! I bought some casters today I need to get some iron and I will weld up my mobile base. Should be close to being ready to start my moulding project. Lol have to get rid of a bunch of junk out of the garage first!
 
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