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Forum topic by JimRochester posted 12-11-2016 10:20 PM 2962 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JimRochester

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12-11-2016 10:20 PM

I have been using a RIKON 60-200 2HP dust collector for the last couple years. It has functioned well for the money but was messy. I used a cyclone on a garbage can to make it a two stage separator. My biggest gripe are those stupid bags. Even with weather stripping the lower bag would leak around the edges and foul up my air cleaner in no time. The upper bag also let dust escape. Every time I went to change the bag I made a huge mess. I liked the Laguna setup with the sealed drum. All I needed was a 110v unit since my collector is never more than 10 feet from tool it’s gathering from.

I purchased from Rockler for 10% off and it came delivered for $1350 plus tax and an extra $75 shipping. It was packed well and was unscathed. It weighs about 269 lbs. so my son and I used a hand truck to get it in the basement.

Putting it together was horrendous. The instructions were the worst I have ever seen. Calls for metric wrenches but fractional hardware. Tells you to use 6 screws on each side yet uses 3 on each for total of 6. I learned you have to read ahead to include everything the current step left out. They also sent it with bare wires so I had to go buy my own plug.

Once I got it together though I am extremely happy with it. Even though it is rated at 1.5 HP compared to the 2HP of the Rikon, it has noticeable pull the other one didn’t. You can see it pull dust from 5 or 6 inches away from the opening where the old setup maybe an inch at best. It is a touch quieter. For 1500 clams it better be good and it is. If you can get by the stupidity of the instructions you’ll be happy.

-- Schooled in the advanced art of sawdust and woodchip manufacturing.


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#1 posted 12-11-2016 11:05 PM

Thanks for the review, good stuff!

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#2 posted 12-12-2016 12:44 AM

Jim,
Looks very impressive. I’ll be interested in hearing your thoughts about the collector after it has been in use a few months. I’m using a 4 bag Grizzly and it seems to spread more fine dust than it collects.
Roger

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#3 posted 04-03-2020 03:43 PM

Thought I would update people on this. My filter is continually getting clogged. Every time you clean it you leave just a little bit in there. After a couple years it’s tougher and tougher to get it really, really clean. Consequently it clogs up quicker and quicker. I thought I would spend a couple hundred and get a new filter. I just got a quote from Laguna for $550 plus shipping. That’s $600 for a filter for a machine that cost $1400 to begin with. Sticker shock.

-- Schooled in the advanced art of sawdust and woodchip manufacturing.

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#4 posted 04-03-2020 06:04 PM

Too bad it is so much for a new filter. This type dust collector with the shorter come are not as efficient with dust separation.

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#5 posted 04-03-2020 06:08 PM

I also use a garbage can separator on most machines. The only machine I have hooked directly to the collector is my table saw. Router table, drum sander, planer, belt sander all run through the separator first. If I didn’t use that I’d probably only get a week between cleanings and I’m strictly a hobbyist.

-- Schooled in the advanced art of sawdust and woodchip manufacturing.

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#6 posted 04-03-2020 07:09 PM

Can’t help what Laguna charges, but is it possible to go to one of the online filter places, and replace with same, or better? They had to get them from somewhere. Just cut out the middleman. which is all they will be on a filter.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#7 posted 04-03-2020 08:29 PM



Can t help what Laguna charges, but is it possible to go to one of the online filter places, and replace with same, or better? They had to get them from somewhere. Just cut out the middleman. which is all they will be on a filter.

- therealSteveN

I can look but probably not. I’m sure the ones they have are proprietary. They have hooks on the bottom for the dust canister that hangs on to it.

-- Schooled in the advanced art of sawdust and woodchip manufacturing.

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#8 posted 04-03-2020 09:33 PM

That is a HEPA rated filter and they are expensive.

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#9 posted 04-03-2020 09:38 PM



I also use a garbage can separator on most machines. The only machine I have hooked directly to the collector is my table saw. Router table, drum sander, planer, belt sander all run through the separator first. If I didn t use that I d probably only get a week between cleanings and I m strictly a hobbyist.

- JimRochester

Are you sure that separator is not causing more problems than it is solving? I have the Jet version of this type dust collector and I would never have to empty the fine dust bag if I remember to empty the chip bucket.

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#10 posted 04-03-2020 09:43 PM



I also use a garbage can separator on most machines. The only machine I have hooked directly to the collector is my table saw. Router table, drum sander, planer, belt sander all run through the separator first. If I didn t use that I d probably only get a week between cleanings and I m strictly a hobbyist.

- JimRochester

Are you sure that separator is not causing more problems than it is solving? I have the Jet version of this type dust collector and I would never have to empty the fine dust bag if I remember to empty the chip bucket.

- Davevand

I would assume it helps. I usually have a full can every other week. If it wasn’t there that would go directly to the collector. That onboard unit isn’t that large so that would probably be full every week too. Then the finer stuff goes to the filter and the connected canister underneath. If there is someway having that extra step is somehow detrimental I would appreciate knowing it. I will certainly remove if it is.

-- Schooled in the advanced art of sawdust and woodchip manufacturing.

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#11 posted 04-04-2020 12:46 AM

The biggest issue with using the separator is loss of suction. I would not be surprised if the static pressure loss is 1-2 inches.

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#12 posted 08-08-2020 02:54 PM

Purchased the Pflux1 and assembled it without any issues, it did take a bit of time. The video on YouTube by Laguna on assembly is a bit dated (3 years old). The 3 cyclone parts that previously had to have a gasket applied and then assemble are already assembled. The top of the main case over the filter is also done. The screws in the chip container that had sharp points and only had rubber tips that seemed to fall off and then tear bags have been replaced with acorn nuts and small bolts. The sides are easy enough to install but the bottom have the acorn nuts on the outside. Easier to install. The chip container also uses negative pressure to hold the bag fully expanded and works well, no inside the bag cylinder needed to hold the bag open.
I had no problems with the instructions but I did watch the videos on YouTube before assembly.
After only a short time I am quite pleased with the operation. No dust on the floor behind the table saw. Sander dust is no longer in the air.
The Laguna is loud but not objectionable. I ordered a second remote to use with the unit. Laguna sent instructions on syncing a second remote.

I did upgrade from a Penn State Unit that was not adequate, therefore some of my observations are from comparing a very inexpensive 1 bag unit to a very good engineered HEPA filtered machine.

I am ashamed that I put this upgrade off for so long. Shop is a lot cleaner and so am I.

-- It's not a mistake it's a design opportunity

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987Ron

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#13 posted 08-13-2020 12:41 AM

Up date on second remote.
The first remote the one included with the DC came programmed.
Received the second remote from Laguna in 5 days.
Had a bit of a problem syncing the second remote. However Laguna customer service was quick to respond (one hour) and solved the problem. At first it was suspected that either the remote or the circuit board on the DC were defective. They were going to send new ones. On the circuit board is a small black button that duplicates the remote sync button on the outside of the control box. This worked. Sync was easy, rechecked the outer remote sync and it now worked.
Problem may have been that one has to listen for beeps and the sound is very weak. With the cover off the circuit board the beeps were much more audible. May be my 82 year old hearing had something to do with this.
In the end all worked as it should. Both remotes synced and operating.

-- It's not a mistake it's a design opportunity

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