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#1 posted 07-16-2010 08:36 PM |
boo. Craftsman in orange and grey. was hoping they’d keep the 4511 construction and mass and just replace the top since some folks don’t care for the granite. oh well. at least it has a better riving knife system, and nicer fence more useful fence than the 4511. still glad I have the 4511. -- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route. |
#2 posted 07-16-2010 08:47 PM |
I still like my saw better, but I wonder if the fence and riving knife would fit my R4511? |
#3 posted 07-16-2010 08:56 PM |
Yea Im also disappointed |
#4 posted 07-16-2010 09:02 PM |
Yea, it won’t suprise me either, It looks less like a hybrid saw and more like a contractors saw. |
#5 posted 07-16-2010 09:06 PM |
the craftsman version seems to have serious alignment issues. I would be interested to see if they have already addressed and resolved those, as this will leave the saw almost useless and a PITA to use -- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route. |
#6 posted 07-16-2010 09:25 PM |
I like the blade tilt on the right, the switch, the riving knife blade guard, and the colors. The mobile base looks like it’s been improved, too. Not sure why anyone would build a table saw now without a t-square style fence mechanism. Also, why not make the whole top cast iron? Maybe one step forward and two steps back for the 4512 saw. I’ll withhold judgement though until I get to lay my own eyes on it at the store. -- The secret to getting ahead is getting started. |
#7 posted 07-16-2010 09:29 PM |
Cory – didn’t you use to have the Craftsman version of this saw? -- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route. |
#8 posted 07-16-2010 09:38 PM |
Craftsman doesnt manufacture anything, from hand tools to power tools, to mechanics tools, its all outsourced. So chances are, it could very well be made by the same company that makes craftsman. |
#9 posted 07-16-2010 11:02 PM |
I think I’ll just keep my 3650, I really like it. -- Tom Stover |
#10 posted 07-16-2010 11:09 PM |
spclPatrolGroup – yes indeed. these saws are outsourced, Craftsman, ridgid, SteelCity, and another Canadian company has long been using the same factory to mfg several of their tools – tablesaws specifically. This brings me to the large number of complains that are related to the already in the market Craftsman ‘version’ (color scheme) of this saw that seems to have some serious alignment issues that are related directly to poor machining of the arbor and trunnions. This seem like a major step down in quality from their 3650/60 4511 saws which were all fantastic machines. -- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route. |
#11 posted 07-16-2010 11:54 PM |
Ain’t that the reason that a lot of Sears power tools are refered to as “Crapsman”? |
#12 posted 07-17-2010 12:01 AM |
Table Saw to OEM Relationship This saw is basically the Craftsman 21833 / Dayton and is imported by Colvos Company as the Private Label which is a significantly different relationship than an OEM. Beside disguising the original manufacturer (or holding company that has a significant stake in that manufacturer) it also signifies that this particular model is a a transition model, tomorrow it could be gone to be replaced by a saw with compleatly incompatable parts. Another issue is that the Craftman 351 code has yet to produce a strong and reliable example of manufacturing, the lathe, nail guns and other saws have been pretty bad flops. That Emerson (Ridgid) is getting in bed with Colvos or the unknown factory they’ve been using for the 21833 is interesting. |
#13 posted 07-17-2010 01:12 AM |
I’m with Tom. I like my 3650. Only complaint is the dust collection could be better. -- Life is good. |
#14 posted 07-17-2010 03:38 AM |
This is very disappointing. I have patiently waiting for the new Ridgid Table Saw seeing how I need a new one but I think I might have to pass if its anything like the 21833. |
#15 posted 07-17-2010 03:28 PM |
This must be to reach low price point. Gone are the cabinet mounted trunnions and solid wings. I’ve heard of others having some alignment issues with the Craftsman 21833, but I’ve also read of others who think i’s a great saw. I find it hard to believe that’s the best they could offer in the wake of the TS3660 and R4511. In the words of the Guinness beer scientist’s side kick “brilliant!”. -- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.... |
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