Which Veritas Dovetail Saw?

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Forum topic by AandCstyle posted 07-31-2016 03:25 PM 1738 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-31-2016 03:25 PM

I have resolved to start doing more work with hand tools. Toward that end, I thought I would pick up a Veritas DT saw and start practicing. I am so naive, I thought my search would bring up one saw and I would buy that one. However, Lee Valley has 19 entries if you search for “dovetail saw”, but I finally whittled my list down to these 2:,42884,42884,64007

Which of these two would you buy and please explain your reason(s) for your choice. I can’t see any difference other than the $20 difference in price.

Thanks for the guidance.

-- Art

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#1 posted 07-31-2016 03:36 PM

Both links end up going to the same page.

I use the Veritas 14tpi dovetail saw a fair amount and really like it though I think a 12tpi tenon saw would work just as well in most woods. I have a Japanese spine backed saw for really fine cuts as my eyes are barely good enough to sharpen a 14tpi saw much less something finer so I prefer disposable blades for the really fine saws.

I don’t own one but I have read really good things about the Badaxe hybrid saws. If I was doing it again I think I would get the Badaxe 12” small dovetail/tenon saw instead of 2 Veritas saws and see if I could get by with just one backsaw on my bench.

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#2 posted 07-31-2016 05:25 PM

It didn’t didn’t look like the same page to me, not exactly. As Art said, it seemed the same except the prices on one page was $20 higher. Art, it seems to me this has come up before on another forum, and one of those may be the Canadian price, as opposed to the other which may be in US dollars.

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#3 posted 07-31-2016 05:33 PM

Same page for different countries. The first is the US page, the second is the Canadian site. Check out the flag in the upper right corner to know which you are on for sure.

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#4 posted 07-31-2016 06:38 PM

Though I’m not the best dovetail guy around (or the top 50%), I have decided that I prefer pull-cut dovetail saws. Seems easier to me to make accurate cuts.

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#5 posted 07-31-2016 06:53 PM

I have the 20 TPI dovetail saw and it works great I have used it on 3/4” stock and I have no complaints. One advantage of a finer tooth saw is they are easier starting. The disadvantage is that there are more teeth to sharpen.

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#6 posted 07-31-2016 07:17 PM

I’ve just bought an 8” DT “Bay State” (read that Simonds) from Aiden 1211. Price/value is a big issue in my shop, so I choose to buy old vs: new.
Will let ya know how the saw works. Robert has cleaned the plate, jointed, sharpened (14 tpi), set, and refined the tote for less money than a new saw with no provenance.
Saw has a cast steel spine, but that matches the other tenon saw that I have, and will be a “partner” to my Bay State full sized cross cut saw with the nib.
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PLEASE do not read this post as a “shill” poster. Robert is a quality seller, and fully discloses his sale items. I am a customer.

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#7 posted 07-31-2016 08:44 PM

I can vouch for Robert as well. Good dude.

Back to topic. I’d say the 14 tpi saw.

Edit: I have the LN myself and love it.

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#8 posted 07-31-2016 09:19 PM

Just in case you don’t know the founder of Lee Valley recently died.

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#9 posted 07-31-2016 10:46 PM

There’s no $69 saw.

I have the 3 saw set and like them alot.
Questioned at first whether I needed both 14 and 20. I use both.

If you can only get one, I would go with the 20.

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#10 posted 07-31-2016 10:48 PM

Fred & Jay, thanks for clearing up my confusion. I’m really glad I didn’t order the $89 saw. :D

Bondo, I like easier starting so will go with the 20 TPI blade. Thank you for the tip.

Bill, you got me all excited about your saw, but then told me I couldn’t have yours. :/ Anyhow, I don’t know enough to purchase a saw from Robert.

Alaska, I had seen that. He left a great legacy for his family, workers and the woodworking community in general. His son, Rob, is an outstanding person as well.

I will wait until LV offers free shipping for orders >$40 to place my order. Will I get by with just the one saw or should I order the pair for $120?

-- Art

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#11 posted 08-01-2016 01:40 AM

Just to clear up the price thing… you are linking to the same page just one is to the Canadian site and the other link goes to the American site. The $89 price is what we pay up here in Canuckistan (Which interestingly is a few cents cheaper than the American price).

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#12 posted 08-01-2016 02:54 AM

I have the 20tpi and find it works okay, that said I use a Zona 28 tpi and or Japanese pull saw for for most cuts under a 1/2”. Picked up a Gramercy 14 tpi a while back and have not had a real chance to test it properly but with the few test cuts can say without a doubt it feels and cuts WAY nicer! If only it wasn’t so darn pretty. IMHO!

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#13 posted 08-01-2016 09:40 PM

James, it is only right that the saws should be a bit cheaper in Canada since they are Canadian made by a great Canadian company.

Andre, Gramercy is way out of my price range, but if you want to get rid of your 20tpi Veritas, let me know. haha

-- Art

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#15 posted 08-03-2016 04:34 AM

I’ll second the Lie Nielsen the weight balance and longevity of the steel are top notch. I prefer the older saws for the most part but my Lie Nielsen is as good as my older DT’s. I’d also advise going with the finer toothed saw but the 14 will give a nice cut (depending on the amount of set in the teeth) and is a little more versatile. If you want the best of both worlds it’s best to get both saws each has its own use in certain situations. Makers of yesterday didn’t own just one saw for a reason. Good luck on your hunt do as much research as you can before you buy.


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