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Connecting a DW735 Planer Direct to Filter Bag?

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I just bought a DeWalt DW735 planer and I'm trying to figure out the best, first step at collecting chips. I do not have a DC, just a shop vac and Dust Deputy. Some people seems to make this work.

But, I saw a YouTube video where a guy had a 4" hose coming straight off the planer into a filter bag. The DW735 planer has a strong blower built in. So I can see why this works. Unfortunately, commenters already asked the guy about the bag, and he didn't respond.

Looking around a bit, I don't see that bags like this exist. It would need a 4" port and of course a zipper or similar for emptying it.

Anyone know of such an animal or some way to adapt a common filter bag?
 
#4 ·
I use my Dewalt planer with a shop vac and a home made dust separator and it works fine as long as I don't forget to turn the vac on. The dust deputy should work even better. I had to use a rubber adapter I got in the plumbing dept. at Home Depot to attach the shop vac hose to the planer.
 
#6 ·
I don't have a DeWalt planer, but the newer Ridgid. It also has a hefty blower in it for chip removal and I simply use my shop vac and a dust deputy too with no issues. I've run 12" wide boards with no issues. Yes it does create a lot of chips and you'll have to empty the bucket but it works with no issues. In my opinion, the only think you'll get out of the bag is that it will hold more chips than the dust deputy bucket. Unless I'm severely underestimating the force of the DeWalt blower….
 
#7 ·
Larger board width and especially species and cut depth can make longer, more clog prone chips. I've seen this setup work for others before and while it will work, connecting a dust collector will greatly reduce the chance of a clog and keep the air cleaner if equipped with a good filter. I've seen a craftsman planer that also has a built in blower and comes with a bag to fit over the top of a garbage can, however, I can make no testament as to how well it works, only that it exists.
 
#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
I've had a DeWalt 735 planer for about 10 years. My shop is small, so my planning is always done outside. When I bought the planer, I also bought the DeWalt 7353 hose and barrel cover accessory, which no longer seems to be available (I can't understand why). The fabric cover has a draw string that allows easy attachment to any barrel that has a lip on the top edge. The draw string is much like those that can be found in the bottom of Winter Jackets. The spring tension lock is the same too. I use a 55 gallon plastic barrel that I cut one end out of. It does a great job of collecting the chips, as long as the draw string keeps the cover on the barrel DAMHIKT.

There is a similar designed accessory by Black and Decker that may fit the need. It's a Black and Decker
BV-006. I haven't tried this, but it may work for you. It certainly looks the same as the DeWalt 7353 accessory in the available pictures of it. The DeWalt 7353 hose end that attaches to the 735 has a small hole in one side and an L shaped groove in the opposite side that allows the hose end to be snap locked into place on the exhaust port of the 735. This Black and Decker version may not have this, but it would be a simple modification if the hose diameter fits the exhaust port on the 735. If anyone tries this, please post your success or failure here for others who may be considering this.

Friends who have tried to use a shop vac to collect chips from their 735 planers have all reported disasters
with this idea. The volume of chips collected can fill a 5-7 gallon shop vac to over full in one pass of a long board. It's best to let the internal blower of the 735 blow the chips into a much larger container, or into a hose connected to a very large shop dust collector. Any dust collector with a hose smaller than 3" diameter is not going to be capable of handling the velocity of the 735 exhaust port either.

Charley
 
#9 ·
I have a Dewalt planer (734) and find that my shop vac and Dust Deputy do a really good job. Not a big deal to empty the bucket for the amount I plane at a time. I don't take off much with each pass so I haven't had any trouble with clogs.
 
#10 ·
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Friends who have tried to use a shop vac to collect chips from their 735 planers have all reported disasters with this idea. The volume of chips collected can fill a 5-7 gallon shop vac to over full in one pass of a long board. It s best to let the internal blower of the 735 blow the chips into a much larger container, or into a hose connected to a very large shop dust collector. Any dust collector with a hose smaller than 3" diameter is not going to be capable of handling the velocity of the 735 exhaust port either.

Charley

- CharleyL
As long as you have a dust separator between the vac and the planer it works very well. If you are planing several board feet, you'll want a bigger separator bin or be prepared to empty it frequently, but my 5 gallon bucket on the separator can handle quite a bit before I have to empty it. I have a Craftsman 5 HP/ 12 gallon vac and it handles the exhaust well enough but I've also used my smaller 1.5 HP/5 gallon Shopvac and it worked well enough too because the separator catches 99% of the chips. I use a Clean Stream filter on my vacs which I think helps.
 
#11 ·
Sounds like there are several ways to go. I've yet to even turn this planer on. But wanted something to deal with this to start. There's obviously no reason not to try my shop vac setup and see how it goes. I will of course have to rig up the hose connection.

And if nothing else, I can still just put a 4" hose on it and run this into a trash can outside to trap the bulk of the chips and avoid blowing them all over my driveway.

As with many, this may not be something I do very often, so I don't mind working outside. Though if this is as loud as everyone says, I'll have to be mindful of me neighbors. But if it works out to be the equivalent of running a wood chipper once a moi month on a Saturday afternoon, I see no problem.
 
#12 ·
DeWalt used to offer an attachment like you are describing. I do not think it is still available. I had one. It worked well but fine dust would be thrown into the air. It collected chips only. I gave mine to a friend when I installed a dust collection system. He is still using it with his garage door open to get rid of the fine dust.
 
#13 ·
I have one of the newer Ridgid planers with the chip extractor. I just have the bag off of my electric yard blower/vac duct taped to the outlet. Works surprisingly well. I still get some chips out the front of the planer, but it's pretty limited. A legit filter bag, would no doubt be even better, and help with the dust. I still wear a dust mask (and hearing protection! So LOUD!) while using most of my power tools due to no dust collector yet. Just an old shop vac I found that a neighbor had thrown away and i resurrected with a little new wiring.
 
#14 ·
I picked up a 4" to 2 1/2" adapter locally and will be set to at least try the shop vac with Dust Deputy. I also bought some 4" flex hose. If nothing else I can place that in a trash can and fit a loose lid on it. But that I would do outside.

I'm still going to keep an eye on that Penn State bag MadMark posted. It might be a very good option. But, I need to do something now and not wait on ordering something. I was a bit disappointed that my local supplier (Wood Workers Supply) doesn't carry bags like that. They sell some portable/wall mount DC that use that style, and it's their own brand (Woodtek), but oddly, they don't sell separate bags.

Hopefully the shop vac will do well enough for me to get by for now. It remains to be seen how much I'll use the planer, but now that I have one, I'm already thinking of how I'll do some planned projects differently.
 
#15 ·
A data point.

I connected to my shop-vac, Dust Deputy setup and it worked well. Did spew some chips when the hose popped off the DD due to the positive pressure. Hose clamp fixed that.

Now, this was not a very extreme test. I was planing 2×4 on edge, so it was about as narrow a planing operation as one would ever do. I will be on the lookout for issues when I plane a wider board. Though to some degree using the slower feed rate and making shallower passes may help if that looks to be a problem.

I was pleased to see that it doesn't seem to generate much fine dust. My ambient filter kept the fine dust down to insignificant levels throughout the use of the unit. I have a Dylos particle counter. This gives me some hope that a bag may work really well for this.

Since this was my first experience with a planer, I was surprised at the volume of chips. They are very light weight as compared to the much finer dust from my table saw. I had to empty my Dust Deputy 5 gal bucket twice and it is probably half full again. I don't let that get completely full, but I'd say at least 4 gal each time. Based on my estimates of what I removed from the boards, it looks like the chips take up about 8X more volume than the wood removed.

FYI: While early days, and I'm a novice planer user, I was very pleased with the DeWalt 735. I don't know how it could have worked better for me.
 
#17 ·
lew,

Thanks for the link. I might give it a go. Based on my VERY limited experience today, it seemed like it produced relatively little fine dust. At least the whole time I used it, my room filter kept the fine dust at very low levels. Table saw will jump the dust counter up 50X in moments.

Point is, I do suspect that a simple cloth screen like you have created is probably just fine.

Now that this setup is 6 years old, any mods or changes you'd make or have made to it?
 
#18 · (Edited by Moderator)
When I bought my 735, it came with a length of 4" hose and a cloth drawstring cover for a trash can. It was a Dewalt accessory #7353. It seems like a good idea, but I have never used it. I hook mine up to a 16 gal shop vac and with the internal blower in the 735 and the shop vac running, I have no problem collecting all of the chips and dust from this hard working great little planer. I have forgotten to turn on the vac before, and the internal blower was shoving dust out around the lid seal on the vac. What a great dust extraction blower on the Dewalt! I would recommend this planer to anyone wanting a good planer at a great value.
 
#19 ·
lew,

Thanks for the link. I might give it a go. Based on my VERY limited experience today, it seemed like it produced relatively little fine dust. At least the whole time I used it, my room filter kept the fine dust at very low levels. Table saw will jump the dust counter up 50X in moments.

Point is, I do suspect that a simple cloth screen like you have created is probably just fine.

Now that this setup is 6 years old, any mods or changes you d make or have made to it?

- clin
When I made this chip collector, I didn't have any dust collection. My old planer dumped the shavings directly on the floor. The Dewalt, as you found out, uses an afterburner from an F-14 so something needed to be done. The collector worked perfectly, however, I eventually scored a Delta dust collector with a separator from Craig's List so this one is no longer around.
The only thing that would have made the collector nicer would have been a better method of tightening the draw string. A couple of times, when I thought the string was tight, the pressure blew the cloth loose. My knot slipped.
 
#20 ·
Separating the larger dust chips from the finer particles at the micron level is best. The stuff you can't see floating in the air is the main concern for your lungs. Collecting in a 5 micron bag may not be a big deal if you only occasionally use your planer, but if you're consistently using it, a dust separator is a must. The great thing about the DW735 is its chip blower system, so no need for a vacuum hookup.

Pipe your exhaust port into a cyclone separator and mount a quality filter to the outlet port of the separator. RIGID makes a great HEPA filter that keeps particles down to .3 microns out of your shop air.

I stuck a cyclone separator on top of a poly drum and it works great. If you are interested in that setup, you can find it here
 
#22 ·
I built a stand with casters for my planner (temporary for now) I saw something where the stand was enclosed and used as a separator, there was a baffle in the case. It collected the majority of the chips.

When I pull the trigger for a DC, I will probably go with so m etching like that. Have a door on it to remove a plastic tub to empty. (wish I could remember where I saw it).
 
#23 ·
I built a stand with casters for my planner (temporary for now) I saw something where the stand was enclosed and used as a separator, there was a baffle in the case. It collected the majority of the chips.

When I pull the trigger for a DC, I will probably go with so m etching like that. Have a door on it to remove a plastic tub to empty. (wish I could remember where I saw it).

- Eric
I just got an email from Instructable this morning about an enclosed system using an old clothes dryer for parts. I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about but that would be an insane coincidence if it is!

https://www.instructables.com/Dust-Collection-From-Clothes-Dryer/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

If it's not, and you do find what you're referring to, please post it. I'd love to see how that setup works.
 
#25 · (Edited by Moderator)
I have a DeWalt planer bag made expressly for the 735, and I don't have a 735 anymore since I got a Griz 15" with heli head. It's all I ever used on a number of 735's I owned through the years. The blower on the planer will blow out the chips and dust, but you need to make sure the tubing is well supported in a line that keeps the chips moving toward your trash can.

If you think about it, with a DC of any type you are pulling the chips to the collection area/can. With this, you are pushing the chips, so if the hose gets saggy, limp, or bent it's game over depending on the blower alone. But my experience was the blower did an adequate job, but I did need to get the hose just right. Evidently enough people couldn't figure out how to make it work based on the blower, as DeWalley has ceased offering this bag.

This is what they used to offer.

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