Shop Skills #5: Using Toner to Add or Change Color

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Blog entry by Todd A. Clippinger posted 09-13-2009 05:32 PM 4709 reads 5 times favorited 35 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Sorry for the False Start Guys…

I had the privacy setting turned on when I posted to YouTube. (D’oh!)

It’s Finally Here!

Whew! It takes a lot of work to shoot a video, edit, and get it posted to the internet.

I am still struggling with posting to the internet. My HD file sizes are too big to be accepted by BlipTv and YouTube, and once I get the size down to an acceptable limit, they lose quite a bit of quality. This is a bit frustrating and makes me sad to see all my hard work go for naught when it comes to the final viewing quality.

If anybody has any suggestions please let me know.

On to Wood Working

This video demonstrates the use of toner made with dye, for adding color to a woodworking project.

In this episode, I use toner to change the existing color of a set of French doors. These doors are for my clients so this is a live project.

This is not a comprehensive dissertation on the use of dyes and toner. I am limited to the use of what is necessary to complete this particular project, but the principles and the basics are very well applied and demonstrated.

I hope you enjoy the video and find it informative.

I used ML Campbell’s MagnaMax to finish the door. It is a wonderfully durable pre-cat lacquer.

My Favorite Finish

Providing Nutrition for Woodworkers

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#1 posted 09-13-2009 05:47 PM

Very informative. I never really understood toner usage, and I now have a much better idea.

I noticed when you first started spraying you’d stop and start in the middle of a panel instead of the long full-length coats. I usually get terrible finish build-up if I accidentally do that with, say, a spray can finish. I assume you can do that because of the ultra-fine droplet size?

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#2 posted 09-13-2009 05:49 PM

Hey Todd
Super video Good info and well presented. The only thing ,I’ve been told by my paint supplier is that skin can absorb thinners so they recommend wearing long sleeves and even a hood if you can stand it when you spray.


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#3 posted 09-13-2009 05:55 PM

Greg – It is important to understand that I am not spraying coats of finish, I am adding layers of color. There is very little to virtually no build of film. That is why you can spray in spot locations to add color.

Once the desired level of color is achieved, you add even coats of finish.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#4 posted 09-13-2009 06:25 PM

Your tips on using toner are great ,thanks for taking the time to put this together. What did you use for finish ?
Thanks Jerry

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#5 posted 09-13-2009 06:31 PM

I always love your videos Todd… I sense the next Wood Whisperer

-- San Diego, CA

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#6 posted 09-13-2009 06:35 PM

Todd: not sure what you’re using for encoding your movies, but I’ve tried varying the encoding to shrink mine in the past. I’ll usually convert my raw camcorder videos to DiVx (or Xvid) which shrinks them considerably. I’m a Linux guy, and use mencoder (mplayer) for that, which gives you lots of options. They do have a windows port of it, but I’ve never tried it out.

One thing I’ve noticed about some software is that they can leave the audio stream in a raw format rather than converting to MP3 or something along those lines, which can increase the video size considerably. Another possibility is to use a 2-pass encoding method which can result in smaller videos. If I’m re-encoding for web sharing, I’ll shrink the video down to 400×300 and aim for 1000-2000kbps streaming speed, which results in pretty small videos when taking from a standard MPEG stream.

Beyond that, great video!

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#7 posted 09-13-2009 06:40 PM

JerryS – I use ML Campbell’s MagnaMax satin. It is a pre-catalyzed lacquer and it is very durable.

Interpim – You will have to thank Marc because he is one of the guys that originally helped me with video. David Pruett and Tommy MacDonald were also very helpful. Each one had very specific information that helped get me going. There is still so much more to learn about video production and posting.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#8 posted 09-13-2009 06:41 PM

Jimi_C – I am using iMovie ‘09 on my MacBook. I can convert the video to any of the necessary formats for uploading the the net.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#9 posted 09-13-2009 10:09 PM

Every time I try to watch the video a message pops up that says this is a private video??? I am looking forward to seeing this one.

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#10 posted 09-13-2009 10:30 PM

I’m having a problem getting anything to show up. It might send me to youtube and then it’s just a bunch of regular videos.

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#11 posted 09-13-2009 10:54 PM

My disappointment knows no depth as I have not received a friend request to view the video. :-(

It say it is a “private” video which I’m guessing has something to do with an ancient chinese secret.

Please Todd allow me to view your video. I am your biggest fan. I’ve started dressing like you and even tried to cut my hair like yours (that’s not working out so well). I wanna be you when I grow up.

Okay, I’ll check later to see if it’s viewable.

-- Working at Woodworking

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#12 posted 09-13-2009 11:02 PM

So it is not just me and my cranky computer…

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#13 posted 09-13-2009 11:11 PM

I am getting the same message, how do we open it

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#14 posted 09-14-2009 12:02 AM

Its saying its a private video, and I cant see it

-- Julian, Homewood, IL

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#15 posted 09-14-2009 02:54 AM

Todd, I am getting the same message about this being a private video on both my computer and my wife’s new laptop. Any suggestions on how we can get the video to play?

And I was all pumped up and ready to watch it!! I even had the popcorn ready. :)

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