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Where do you guys purchase your hardwood? If your like me you cant afford 13.99 a board feet from the overpriced online stores. But there wood is not usually kiln dried. At least in my area..
My first thought is a lumbermill ..
I prices white oak online today to build a new queen sized bed.. the quote was over 2500.00
I cant afford that..
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Where do you guys purchase your hardwood? If your like me you cant afford 13.99 a board feet from the overpriced online stores. But there wood is not usually kiln dried. At least in my area..
My first thought is a lumbermill ..
I prices white oak online today to build a new queen sized bed.. the quote was over 2500.00
I cant afford that..

I may have to buy green wood from a lumbermill but then i will was wood with the splits and cracks.
- Lablover1974
I have no idea where you're pricing your whie oak online, but the price you were quoted is rediculous. I buy from several hardwood dealers in Pennsylvania and have found their prices reasonable, even with the shipping to my home in South Carolina. All of their woods are kiln dried. I priced 13.99 BF of 5/4 kiln dried white oak at Hearne Hardwoods in Oxford PA. Their current price for rift and quartered white oak is $13.50/BF or $188.88 for 13.99BF, plus shipping. I have no idea what rough stock dimensions you need, but the price for 5/4 rift and quartered white oak is pretty high, so it should cover any other dimensions you need. Shipping is, of course and added cost, but it would take a lot of shipping to jack the <$200 cost to over $2500.00. Here's a suggestion: don't ask for a quote when you order online. Figure out what you need and order it by the board foot. Be sure to include waste when you order because you will certainly have some. I usually add 40% to my order for waste, and I usually end up with usuable wood left over, but I would rather have that situation than not enough wood. Even so, $188.88 + 40% is $264.42, a long way from $2,500.00.
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If I only need a small piece, the local lumber yard. I've got a friend with a cabinet shop will order anything I want at his cost paid in cash. I've help keep his party fund quite comfortable for some time. I'm thinking I need to order some more red oak…..
Recently I looked at 6/4 quarter sawn white oak and it was $11.20 a bd ft. The price was close between 2 different lumber yards. I would rather buy it at the lumber yard myself than from a place online.
Craftsmen Supply in Ybor city (Tampa). They ship,
Not sure where your located. So hard to say.

I have family that I visit in a few parts of the country.
Michigan, it's Johnsons Workbench. They have 2 stores, South Bend, In and Charlotte, MI.
New York, it's Southern Teir Harwoods, Appliccain, NY.
Mississippi, it's Pickens Hardwoods, Jackson, MS.

For small quantities, I will order online. I am in Upstate South Carolina, and have not found a supplier near me.
Location is key. Further away from the trees being harvested, the more you pay in transportation costs.
Without knowing YOUR approximate location (city, state); impossible to offer low cost alternatives.

Buying from a retailer, that buys from distributor, that buys from sawmill; is most expensive. Buying from a distributor that buys from a sawmill, means middle expensive. If you want lowest prices, buy from a sawmill directly. It's called retail economics. If your local sawmill doesn't have kiln, drive a little further and find one that does have a kiln. Finding wood is not always easy.

Volume buying is another key to lower prices.
For absolute best prices on lumber, have to be willing to buy in full stack lots (200-1000 bdft); and have proper storage to keep it safe. Also usually need to travel to where the trees are harvested in high volume as well. Arizona has very few hardwood trees. So if I want inexpensive lumber; I visit CA, or haul home a trailer load after a vacation trip with family in Midwest states.

Some examples, I spend more in AZ for southern yellow pine (~$4.5) from east coast, than I do for Pacific coast maple or alder (~$2). Folks in east coast have exact opposite pricing. Can buy domestic oak, hickory, maple for $5-6 at several wholesale lumberyards in town. Can get same lumber for 30-50% less at sawmill(s) in Midwest. Right now it's cheaper to buy from local distributor, than pay gas to haul a trailer load home. :(

Quarter sawn lumber is more expensive, and can be harder to find. Paying $8-$12 is fairly normal for FAS grade QS lumber. When I need unit of QS lumber, Frank Miller in Indiana is a great resource for market pricing. They occasionally have stacks of shorts stashed in warehouse, selling for 60-70% the price of normal QS lumber too. But you have to visit, to ask for the deals. There are other sawmills scattered around the US, that offer decent prices as well.

You can find many lumber sources using LJ search feature.
Many are posts asking: ' where can i find lumber near XXXX'; so again - location is key.

Hope this helps.
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Call a couple sawmills and ask them where they'd suggest you get your lumber and see if they have any good suggestions
I buy from several local lumber yards.
Unless it's one or two boards I buy everything in the rough.
Support your local seller be good customer that restacks any lifts or wood piles that your rummage through. You might find over time their prices get better.
Most of all don't complain about their prices.
Good Luck
Sometimes you have to look at design and see if/where solid wood can be replaced with plywood. Either oak plywood or plywood with veneer. Thats how a lot of manufactured "all wood" furniture is made to be profitable.
If I want S4S hardwood, I purchase through Menards. Just wait for their sale on it, Then hope they have the extra 11% rebate at the same time. For S3S hardwood, I use Woodstock Hardwood Supply.
There is Cook Woods, for exotics also, and they are always running sales too.
You know it grows on trees, right? ;-)

Admit it, you know you needed a smart-a$$ comment this morning.

Mostly I just get it from downed trees, because for a lathe it makes no difference. It's gonna get round no matter what shape it starts out as.

If I need kiln-dried for the "f" word, then I buy it from a local woodworker who orders from Peachtree lumber in Atlanta. I just drive over to his shop to pick it up; about 20 miles round trip.
This list hasn't been updated in two years but still may be useful for you.

https://www.popularwoodworking.com/local-lumberyard-map/

I buy my hardwood from a local sawyer who cuts it themselves and kiln-dries it onsite. For pricing, I generally refer to Kettle Moraine Hardwoods in southeast Wisconsin. They're about an hour from my house but publish prices online.

https://www.kmhardwoods.com/

+1 to MPython for buying extra. If you can find a local sawyer, you can generally pick the boards you want from what they have on-hand so cone with a cutlist of what you're looking for.
As others have said, it really depends on where you are. Best option is to go to a sawmill. In my area 5/4 kiln dried white oak quarter sawn 7"-9" wide is ~$13.50/bf.

Hey MPython, Hearne's is my go to place. I'm about 90 minutes north of them, great place to visit.
Age old question. If you live where the trees are, you will find it cheaper than if you live some distance away. Transportation is the cost.

A good reason to always put in a location on a profile. Possible someone close to you could give you a place to drive to close to wherever home is. Don't need a street address, just something of a general location.
Well I found a good source or rough cut from the Amish 2.00 a board foot only air dryed but I will take it for that price..
Well I found a good source or rough cut from the Amish 2.00 a board foot only air dryed but I will take it for that price.. The only draw back is it's all 1 by
I even managed to grab a ton of curly maple 3.00 a board foot.
- Lablover1974
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