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SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

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SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
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SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Good one Todd. Now I too am impressed.
That is definitely something they should add to their demos. I always thought, just like you, that they were giving the saw every possible opportunity to succeed.
It won't make me buy one because I love my Unisaw and have good enough safety sense to feel safe around my tools but it is certainly more "real world" than any test I've seen before.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Gr8 point Todd. I don't own one, not sure I ever will, but, it's a good idea, sort of. My thoughts have always been the same, and that is it's a great idea, but, it just makes the guy or gal that's pushing that lumber through the cut more relaxed, and not really focused on what is going on. Just my thoughts and opinion. BUT, I am still impresses also.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Well this is weird, there are only 2 comments. It looks like all the comments got wiped out. Anybody know what is going on?

There were a variety of opinions but everybody was civil.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Somehow I managed to post this 2X!
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Well this is weird, there are only 2 comments. It looks like all the comments got wiped out. Anybody know what is going on?

There were a variety of opinions but everybody was civil.

- Todd A. Clippinger
It's a conspiracy for sure!
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to insure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Picklehead - I realized that I managed to post this blog twice by accident. All the traffic I was looking for is on the other post.

Duff head…
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
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SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Nice job.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
I fail to see how wearing a glove caused any further damage than a non-gloved hand. I have been a shop teacher for 12 years, I have used old Delta unisaws, delta contractor saws, new delta unisaws, grizzly hybrids and 2 different sawstops and assorted job saws; skil, black and decker, dewalt and porter-cable. All of the saws mentioned above can cause injuries if an operator is careless. Even the sawstop can cause injury, the severity of the injury is the main difference. If I could afford a sawstop for my home shop I would own one, while I agree they are quite expensive, the added safety can not be quantified by a dollar amount I love having 10 fingers and you should too.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
TechTeacher04 - I had a good good friend that lost 3 fingers from wearing gloves at the table saw because the blade grabbed the glove and dragged his hand in.

The point of the video was to see how far the blade would drag the glove and hand into the machine before it kicked off.

It was merely a question that I had about how well the saw would function if someone was wearing gloves at the table saw. This demonstration was an attempt to answer that question.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Sorry, I agree with TechTeacher. You can cause any safety feature to fail, I guarantee if you had your tie get caught in the blade it would not help that you had a sawstop. When I first started I actually had a hoody on with the strings dangling and luckily the shop supervisor caught it before my face went slamming into the blade. On the other hand, By all means if you plan to use the saw in other than recommended ways, the sawstop is not worth the money. Many times in my professional life I've been forced to make a judgment call on exactly how far I could go beyond recommended procedures without risking my life or my teammates; at times the mission required us to cross that line and luckily we crossed back with no problems. As long as you understand the risks you take and the corners you cut in one area of safety to accommodate the hazards that you find more direct and dangerous, no one can second guess your decisions. I really doubt I would miss my fingers any less, if I lost them to frost bite rather than a saw.
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SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
I watched the video and somehow missed the part where you said it dragged the glove into the machine..???
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
I don't think the results would be any different, but I would have liked to see a stiffer finger. Looks like the blade pushed the glove back until it cut through (very slowly) Maybe a corn dog stick down the middle would make it more finger like. I would also like to see it in action without cutting a piece of wood. Glove right into the blade, as if you were trying to pick up a pc of wood and hit the blade by accident.

Thanks for sharing Todd
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
jay - We never even considered that the hotdog would flex back like that and did not even realize that it did until I watched the footage in slo-mo.

An actual hand would not have done that. But ultimately I don't think it really affected the test.

As soon as one tooth of the blade actually did penetrate, at that point the brake was triggered since it came into contact with the hotdog.

I have no doubt at that point, if it had not triggered the blade, it would have dragged the glove into the machine.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
That was pretty cool to see. I have seen the hot dog demo, and I have been in the shop when a real finger got into a saw stop. That day the guy got a good paper cut. I have been told about an accident where the guy went finger nail first into the blade and got a worse cut. Still was less damage than what would have been without the saw stop.
Nothing takes the place of working safe. And anything can fail. But I too would have the saw stop in my shop if I could afford it. Will have one when the day comes to upgrade from the contractor saw I use now.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Cool video with a twist I didn't see coming.

Really the only complaint I have about your videos is they make me run out and buy something. The last one I watched made me buy the Akeda dovetail jig, and now I have to get a Sawstop.

Good videos and great advise. Thanks Todd!
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
pintodeluxe Oh man…so sorry! Hey those Akeda jigs are great!

I'll try to keep the videos wallet friendly;)
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
To me, the moral of the video…it did not cause catastrophic damage. Kudos to the tester for even trying it. If it would have not worked "properly" I am sure it would be a little alarming. Seems like you walk away with all 10 fingers in this situation. That is the important part. Could you be bleeding? Maybe, probably…but that isn't the doomsday scenario.
SawStop Demonstrations Don't Impress Me

I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hot dog a dozen times.

But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results.

At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators and requested that they place the hot dog in a glove so we could see the results.

My request was always denied and I was always told, "You shouldn't wear gloves at the table saw."

Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can't keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw.

So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality.

My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it.

This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off.

I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test.

Your friend in the shop,

Todd A. Clippinger

Let your work be your signature.
Thanks for conceiving of - and following through - with an interesting experiment. Kudos to Todd and to your supplier.
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